Prepaid ATM Accounts at Carib!

[bgeorgia]

GET YOUR PREPAID ATM ACCOUNT NOW!

They're NO Charges to deposit and your account is credited in seconds. So many ways to fund your card - Western Union Quick Collect, Credit Cards, Bank Wire, e-Checks, PayPal, etc.

Best of All! Cash-outs are FREE and you get it in "MINUTES" direct from the ATM machine, NO more 3 day wait for a Fed-Ex check. Finally! A card that's not tied to any bank account.

It's a fantastic, affordable method of money trasfer with '0' hassles!

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[Latin King]

i wonder how "safe" it is?

[Blowfish]

There are other sites that offer it, maybe some readers have used it before. I know it can be found at:

www.5dimes.com
www.homewagering.com

[stardust]

Since they require an SSN and check you out through TransUnion, I don't like it.

If the account is pre-paid whay do they need my SSN?

Bad idea in my mind - decide for yourself.

[sword1]

prepaid ATM

I have used it and absolutely love it. I first heard about it through Carib's site. It takes Carib about one minute to pay you and you can get your cash at your local ATM machine. Much nicer then waiting for check or EFT deposit. Its as fast as Western union, but without the cost. The card I receive has Palm Desert National Bank on it, so I assume it's as safe as any other of the of the transfer companies I used (neteller and Paypal) - Which I also consider completely safe. You can fund the card through EFT for free or paypal or credit card for a small fee. I love it but the only drawback is that only four books I use take it - 5dimes, Sportbet, Island casino, Carib. If Olympic would start taking it - life would be perfect.

[Dragon]

What do they do with the SSN number? What's to stop someone from using a fake name and number?

[stardust]

Like I said:

Since they require an SSN and check you out through TransUnion, I don't like it.

[Dragon]

They can check all they want. If I'm not providing photo ID, what's stopping me from using YOUR ssn?? Or a dead guys SSN? Just a hypothetical of course.

[stardust]

The trouble is manyfold:

They'll match the SSN you give them to the reported info on that person. That is what they use TransUnion for friend.

So when it comes back as belonging to Bill Smith of Oakland, CA and you told them you are Jim Jones from Boston, MA, you won't be able to keep the card I am afraid.

You use my SSN - and who's name? Address? Phone, etc.?

Using someone else's SSN, depending on the circumstances, is a felony.

Let's just say you pull off the first part and get the card. What happens when you run your BR up to 50 dimes and then someone asks you to verify you are Bill Smith with ID and all of that before they pay you?

You know what happens - you'll get stiffed just as sure as God made little green apples, brother.

Like I said before: if I use a pre-paid ATM, send them my hard earned cash - say 10 dimes, they have absolutely no need what so ever of my social security number - no valid reason at all period!

The only reason they would want it - is to report your transactions to the US government.

It looked good untill I saw the form they want you to fill out.

Let me ask you - if you trip down to 7-11 and buy a pre-paid phone card with your hard earned cash, do they ask for your SSN? Do they even ask for any ID? What type of ID would you be willing to supply to get that pre-paid phone card.

They don't ask for any ID; and why is that exactly? Because in a cash transaction, they don't need it - do they? They get the cash, you get the card - deal is done and over.

Can someone tell me why an ATM card would be different?

If you think this thing will help you move money and avoid scrutiny, you are kidding yourself. All the FBI/IRS/US GOV has to do in these post 9/11 times is breath heavy on someone and your transaction history is their's for the reading.

After all - anyone not in lock step with the Nazi ASScroft is aiding terrorism. I guess that includes those who would rather avoid the obscene tax rate in the States.

They don't need the info, so why give it to them. The only use is to identify/report your "suspicious" activity of sending $ overseas. It simply serves no other purpose.

[bill777]

the pre paid atm card is great,i play with carib and can collect at the atm machine for a 1.50 fee in about 10 minutes from the time i ask for a payout,i dont give a damn about them wanting my social security

[stardust]

bill777,

Yeah - the card is great, except for all the reasons I listed revealing why it isn't. Have fun.

Of course no one has told me why an ATM card would be different than a phone card? That is because there is no difference.

[Dragon]

Well, good point about using your ssn#. If you're doing everything on the up and up, or if your a smaller player, then I guess it's a great method. Probably 75% of the players fit into the "smaller" category.

Nothing better than getting your money ASAP!

stardust, I don't think my scenario would be hard at all to pull off. But yes, very much not legal.

[stardust]

Dragon,

If you were using my SSN (or someone else's) you could probably be within the law, technically speaking, using the pre paid ATM. The statute that criminalizes using someone's ssn says that it must be done to secure some benefit to which the fraudulent user is not entitled. I don't see that as the case in this scenario.

The big problem for me anyway - is that like I said - they don't need that information - period! No law requires them to get it; they just have that policy, which I think is invasive. Where else would you give your SSN on a cash transaction (under the 10K reporting requirement of course)? No Freakin' Where! The only thing this ATM card does is make cash transactions traceable -- something it wasn't before you used the card. You've made untraceable cash traceable. How foolish is that?

I think it's a very bad deal no matter what size player you are because of the SSN requirement. Of course I value my privacy more than most. If sports betting for the player is criminalized, you have serious problems. You have the prior money transfers and have revealed yourself as a sports bettor. I think you can guess the rest.

Hey for all we know - the Feds are running the thing. I mean what do you really know about the company? Nada, Zip, Zero, Zilch.

The latest drafts of anti-wagering legislation include a provision making it a crime to fund accounts by any means. That includes the ATM card, brother.

There's nothing better than getting paid in a flash, but what is worse than the IRS/FBI/US GOV knocking on your door with some questions about you moving money? In this post 9/11 police state, don't think some overzealous prosecutor won't throw you in the slam for funding terrorist organizations because you sent 10 dimes offshore. Some politicians see this as an end run around their inability to pass anti-wagering legislation.

[Blowfish]

The pre-paid ATM card should not require you to provide something as private as your social security number if it is truly claiming to be anonymous. The check out clerks at Wal-Mart aren't even allowed to require that for identity verification because that number can be used for a lot of identity fraud.

The card was advertised as a completely anonymous was to fund and get payouts from your account. If you have to provide that information, anonymity goes right out the window.

Has anyone checked with the issuing bank to see about the security of the funds held there?