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  • WHAT DID NANCY SINATRA USED TO SING???

    YOU KEEP LYING!

    WHEN YOU OUGHT TO BE TRUTHING!

    ARE YOU READY BOOTS?

    START WALKING!

    Originally posted by reno:


    Boots, where do you get your bogus info?
    I was playing with Option before CRIS took them over, and after the transition my account figure remained the same without any qualifications. From my perspective, the transition was transparent, and I applaud CRIS for possibly saving me from getting stiffed and for preserving the fantatic 5-cent Option baseball line.

    AsS far as I know, ABC has merged with Looselines, which just moved from Belize
    to Curcao.

  • #2
    hehehehe..i always loved that song reality!
    sinatra does not look too pretty these days but i guess that comes when you go years without hits.....

    chuckz

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    • #3
      CHUCKZ,

      YOU'RE MORE THAN KIND WHEN YOU SAY SHE DOSEN'T LOOK TOO PRETTY THESE DAYS.

      SHE'S BUTT UGLY!

      REALITY

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      • #4
        Reno,
        I never said they made qualifacations. They attempt to by shilling their scam w/Reshillity.


        RESHILLITY,
        I'd hate to see how much you write when our biz ISN'T concluded.....btw, One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

        Much of what Max said has been deleted by Shrink at request of Cris.

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        OPTIONSPORTS PLAYERS ARE NOT BEING PAID BY CRIS
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        SHRINK,
        1. I DO KNOW THE OWNER
        2. I DO KNOW MAD
        3. I DO KNOW ***
        4. I DO KNOW SOME PLAYERS
        WHAT MAD SAYS IS 100% TRUE, BUT I AM NOT HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO COMFIRM THIS BUT TO REACT TO THIS SITES HANDLING OF IT.
        YOU GET A POST ABOUT OPTIONSPORT, YOU LOCK UP "THE TRUE OWNERS OF OPTION SPORT PULLS OUT" YOU LOCK OUT MAD(EVEN AFTER HE HAS CONTACTED YOU}. YOU THEN GLORIFY CRIS FOR ACTUALLY STEALING OPTION FROM THE OWNER SO *** CAN PAY HIS DEBTS TO HIM. FOR THE RECORD *** NEVER OWNED ANY PIECE OF OPTION AND CRIS IS NOT PAYING ALL PLAYERS. I WORKED CLOSELY WITH OPTION AT ITS INCEPTION W/ADVERTISING AND BELIEVE ME *** WASNT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING AN OWNER. HIS BACKROUND ALONE WILL TELL YOU HE HAD NO MONEY. I WAS TOLD THE OWNER PULLED HIM OUT OF 15/30 HOLD EM GAMES IN CALIF WITH AN 1,800 BANKROLL AND HIRED HIM. THIS MAN(I HATE TO CALL HIM A MAN) REALLY KNOWS HOW TO REPAY HIS FRIENDS. ITS OBVIOUS CRIS IS A BIG ADVERTISER BECAUSE AFTER ONE CALL TO HIM YOU LOCK HONEST PEOPLE OUT AND PUT YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS. I WILL AT ANYTIME BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ON THIS MATTER.
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        Edited by Moderator

        Name removed.

        Joe

        [This message was edited by Joe on 06-14-01 at 04:24 PM.]

        posted 06-14-01 11:48 AM

        belleza
        Member

        Registered: 04-30-01
        Posts: 117
        shrink
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        As i have said about mad, the situation is as stated.You have the proper resources. This story is well known by many,please do not disregard it.
        posted 06-14-01 12:07 PM

        Tex
        Member

        From: San Jose, Costa Rica
        Registered: 06-19-00
        Posts: 21
        Option Sports
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        max1234,
        You say you know the owner, tell me what initial his first name starts with...You say you know mad,I know him to I met him before the "New" business opened here; I think he is a prick and his biggest problem is that he knows absolutely nothing about GAMBLING. You claim to know the other party which I doubt very seriously because if you did you would not use his name. But that just goes to show everyone how low you are in respect to the man that was responsible for everything offshore...
        What mad says is not 100% true. If you think this then you are just as much full of shit as mad is...CRIS did not by any means steal the business from the owner. Now if you want to go head to head with me I happen to have a little inside dope that would turn this whole thing around. I will not however share this in the public forum, because it is not public business...
        posted 06-14-01 12:45 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        TEX
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        THE OWNERS INITIAL IS *. IF YOU KNOW WHO THE OWNER WAS IS HOW DID CRIS NOT TAKE IT OVER FROM *.
        ****
        I ONLY WISH FOR THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN WHAT WAS DONE HERE IS A TOTAL MISJUSTICE. IF YOU KNEW AS MUCH AS I DO YOU WOULD NOT BE SHILLING FOR **. IVE KNOWN MAD FOR 20 YEARS AND HE DOESNT LIE, HE OWES NOBODY, DOESNT STEAL. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR **? THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WILL TEEL ALL IF YOU KNOW HIM. I AM ON THE INSIDE WHY WOULD I NEED SOMEONES INFO FROM THE OUTSIDE
        [This message was edited by max1234 on 06-14-01 at 01:11 PM.]

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        Edited by Moderator

        No personal information please.

        Joe

        [This message was edited by Joe on 06-14-01 at 04:27 PM.]

        posted 06-14-01 01:04 PM

        Tex
        Member

        From: San Jose, Costa Rica
        Registered: 06-19-00
        Posts: 21
        Max
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        M,
        Ok so you know the initial of one of the owner's. This has nothing to do with the man's wife or family so don't bring them into this...
        Please do not make the mistake of ever saying that I am shilling for anyone.He lied to my friend and told him that he was sending money, I know this to be a fact because I myself was in the middle of that transfer. Low and behold the money never came, P.S. Your buddy doesn't care very much about their business. Mad does owe ask him how much he was asked to send to pay. Steal I don't think that you want to go there but ask him if he remembers attempting to buy the company's lawyer. You want some more Max or have you had enough ?
        posted 06-14-01 01:17 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        TEX
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        FIRST OFF MAD NEVER OWNED THE BUSINESS * DID. YOU SAID THE OWNER DIDNT CARE ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. WHY SHOULD HE PAY AN EMPLOYEE FOR HIS OWN BUSINESS? WHEN THE DEAL WAS MADE TO PAY BLACKMAIL MONEY THE OWNER WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT ** HAD COMMISSIONS AT 50% CALLED FOUND OUT THEY WERE 25%. HE HAD MONTY ON THE SHEET OWING 20,000 WHEN HE HAD ALREADY COLLECTED AND WOULD NEVER TURN OVER THE SHEET. EVERY DAY HE WOULD CALL ANY CASH UP MONEY DEPOSITED? HE WOULD NOT KEEP TO THE AGREEMENT AND KEPT STEALING MONEY. MAD HAS PROOF OF ALL THIS. I REITERATE HOW CAN AN EMPLOYEE TURN OVER A BUSINESS THAT IS NOT HIS? IS THIS. SOMETHING YOU FEEL IS RIGHT? YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW INFO AND HAS ALREADY STATED ** WAS NOT THE OWNER. you want to keep going. IT SOUNDS TO ME YOU AGREE WITH SOMEBODY BEING BLACKMAILED FOR MONEY
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        Edited by Moderator

        Initials removed.

        Joe

        [This message was edited by Joe on 06-14-01 at 04:30 PM.]

        posted 06-14-01 02:11 PM

        PartyBoy$1
        Member

        From: Jackass U.S.A.
        Registered: 06-02-01
        Posts: 50
        THIS ROCKS
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        YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWW!!!!!!!!!!
        posted 06-14-01 02:33 PM

        Tex
        Member

        From: San Jose, Costa Rica
        Registered: 06-19-00
        Posts: 21
        Max
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        Max,
        Is Mad not part owner putting up money receiving a percentage of the win? I never said that the owner didn't care about his business, I said that Mad did not care about their's.
        You failed to answer the question about whether or not your friend mad knew anything about the lawyer being contacted and being offered money for services, let's just say that were not let us say "On the square."
        I have no knowledge of the sheet that owed 20k. Please can you quit using people's name's it is so unnecessary. I do know that the person that I am trying to help out here did have a percentage of the business, and yes therefore I do consider him to be part owner.
        You say that Mad has proof of my friend stealing money I would like to see it. You are incorrect saying that I agree with somebody being blackmailed for money. I think that you yourself have things turned around a bit here, it was your friend that tried to ruin things offshore by paying off a lawyer. I might also add that he left my friend here holding the bag, or rather with his dick in his hand. SHALL WE CONTINUE
        posted 06-14-01 02:38 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        TEX
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        ** AGREEMENT WAS THIS 12,000 A MONTH SALARY HOUSING/ DRIVER 20% AS LONG AS HE WAS EMPLOYED HE SET THIS UP. AS FAR AS STEALING ASK HIM HE LIKES TO CALL IT OWING OR BORROWING, BUT TAKING MONEY NOT ASKING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY BACK WHEN CONFRONTED IS STEALING. I CAN GET THE SHEET THE DAY BEFORE CRIS WALKED IN AND DC MADE 19 ADJUSTMENTS TO BE TAKEN OFF. THEY WERE BOGUS FIGURES TO COVER UP HIS STEALING. THE OFFER TO THE LAWYER WAS MADE AFTER EMPLOYEES FILLED THE OWNER IN ON ALL THE BS HE WAS PULLING, THAT IS WHY EVERY EMPLOYEE WALKED OUT WHEN THE DEAL FELL THROUGH.YOUR FRIEND WAS LEFT HOLDING NOTHING HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE PEACEFULLY WHEN HE WAS CAUGHT STEALING. ASK HIM TO HIS FACE DID YOU LIE ON THE COMMISSIONS? DID YOU BORROW MONEY WITHOUT ASKING?DID YOU COLLECT FROM PLAYERS AND NOT PUT THEM AS PAID? DID YOU TELL THE OWNER YOUR RENT WAS MORE THAN IT WAS? DID YOU CHANGE THE SHEET THE DAY BEFORE CRIS MOVED IN? DO YOU OWE ANY BOOKS IN CR AND IS THIS WHY YOU TURNED TO STEALING? DO YOU OWE CRIS ANY MONEY? YOUR NEW FRIEND SHOULD ANSWER YES TO ALL IF HES HONEST. THE OWNER FLAT OUT TOLD HIM IT DOESNT MATTER ANYMORE HOW MUCH YOU STOLE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT GET THE SHEET RIGHT AND YOU GET YOUR BLACKMAIL MONEY AS IN HIS WHOLE LIFE HE CANT KEEP HIS WORD THATS WHY HE OWES 4 MIL IN LV OR DID HE NOT TELL HIS NEW FRIEND THAT. REPLY IF NEEDED. I WILLREPLY TO YOU ONE MORE TIME TO YOU IF YOU WISH. ****. YOUR FRIEND HAD THE HAMMER LOWERED ON HIM 7 DAYS AGO AND HERE YOU POP UP. YA I KNOW YOU WERE OT OF TOWN OR WANTED TO STAY OUT. there is 2 sides to evey story the truth and **. its your opinion that a guy who owes everybody he ever met is telling you the truth thats ok. i read some of your replies and missed something are you saying mad owes ** money. i didnt think so mad never said he new anything about gamling he was and is a true friend of the owner.woody cost the owner since starting 1.5mill he a real genious.
        [This message was edited by max1234 on 06-14-01 at 04:20 PM.]

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        Edited by Moderator

        Initials and accusation removed.

        Joe

        [This message was edited by Joe on 06-14-01 at 04:34 PM.]

        [This message was edited by max1234 on 06-14-01 at 04:41 PM.]

        posted 06-14-01 03:37 PM

        Joe
        Moderator

        Registered: 07-18-00
        Posts: 2304
        Ladies and Gentlemen:
        I do not know shit about what transpired between Option and CRIS nor the personalities involved.

        What I do know is that there is WAY TOO MUCH personal information flying. THAT HAS TO STOP or this thread WILL be LOCKED.

        Joe

        posted 06-14-01 04:41 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        option/cris
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        AS PER MAD THIS IS THE LAST POST TO BE MADE ON THE SUBJECT AS WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE MAJOR.
        CRIS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID. WOODYWEST YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID LIVE WITH IT. CRIS HOW DID HE EVER CON YOU INTO THIS OR WAS IT THE MONEY HE OWES YOU. THE FAMILY OF AND THE OWNER WERE NOT TREATED WITH THE RESPECT THAT HE LIVES BY. CRIS AND WOODY YOU DID THIS KNOWING THE OWNER WAS SOMEWHERE HE COULD NOT FIGHT THIS BATTLE. IM SURE HE WOULD NOT OF DONE THE SAME TO YOU TWO!!!!!!! PAY THE SHEET LIKE YOU SAID 9901 100,315

        LAST POST MAX

        [This message was edited by max1234 on 06-14-01 at 04:59 PM.]

        [This message was edited by max1234 on 06-14-01 at 05:02 PM.]

        posted 06-14-01 04:53 PM

        badger
        Junior Member

        From: ny
        Registered: 12-09-00
        Posts: 18
        Your all fools for dealing with people like this. stick with the honorable oldtimers from New york and this would never happen. You could sum it up in one word GREED>>>>>>>>>>
        posted 06-14-01 05:48 PM

        STINGCC
        Member

        Registered: 01-07-00
        Posts: 2745
        I don't see the point....
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        This Options Sports had someone who absconded with money if I am reading this correctly? Even if I am not reading this correctly, it's not like this place is proven. Stay away until CRIS gets everything fixed with them and settled in.
        It's a GOOD thing that CRIS has taken over but let's give them time to straighten out this mess.

        Anyone who's going to suggest signing up with Options at this point in time needs to have their heads examined. It's that simple.

        CRIS taking over might not be good for THEM (meaning CRIS) but it certainly can't be a bad thing for the Option customers who are already playing there. CRIS will make sure everyone will get paid just like they made sure Majestic customers got paid.

        I seriously doubt the player will feel any effects from what transpired at Option Sports as long as CRIS is involved. That's just my opinion. Please tell me if I am missing something.

        posted 06-14-01 06:55 PM

        Joe
        Moderator

        Registered: 07-18-00
        Posts: 2304
        max1234,
        For future reference - DO NOT EVER edit a post after a Moderator of this site has done so.

        You were given the courtesy of having your message stand (minus personal information), if you have something else to say, make another post.

        Joe

        PS. Sting is correct that CRIS should be given time to confirm balances.

        Posts about no-pay should be held until after a reasonable amount of time has passed. As there appears to be a lot to this this takeover, I think a few weeks would be appropriate.

        posted 06-14-01 07:10 PM

        Bucky
        Member

        From: USA
        Registered: 03-14-00
        Posts: 307
        Option sports
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        Are Option Sports customers being paid if they ask for money? How big of a factor was the credit business here? Mad and Max it seems to me you are coming in here to rip the book because of some upper management or ownership squabbles with complete disregard for the players monies on deposit.
        Just one hypothetical question? If a owner owns part of a book with a balance sheet of - $'s does he own anything?

        posted 06-16-01 03:38 PM

        CMCS
        Member

        From: Henderson,NV
        Registered: 04-19-01
        Posts: 192
        Has the Option situation improved over the last ten days?
        posted 06-28-01 09:21 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        cmcs
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        What's your deffinition of improvement? The post up money is gone courtesy of the mgr, players haven't been paid and the true owners are screwed out of their money. None of this has changed. The only thing that has changed is the address of the store.
        posted 06-29-01 06:45 AM

        belleza
        Member

        Registered: 04-30-01
        Posts: 117
        CRIS
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        Another class move by the leader of the industry- you are paying all the customers, right?
        posted 06-29-01 08:58 AM

        STINGCC
        Member

        Registered: 01-07-00
        Posts: 2745

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        Are Option Sports players being stiffed? If so this would be a major concern and needs to be addressed. Sorry - I've been out of the loop last two weeks.
        posted 06-29-01 03:50 PM

        belleza
        Member

        Registered: 04-30-01
        Posts: 117
        Stingg
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        Hoping you had a great vacation, Max is close to the situation. I believe there are people that have been stiffed!Max, if you are out there, please respond to Sting's inquiry!
        posted 06-29-01 05:55 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        stingg
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        I know of a player that called down about ten days ago and was told that they had no record of his play. He was then told that he would no longer be a credit player but was welcome to p/u. Needless to say he told them to get f****d and hung up. At the time he was just calling to check a line and his number.
        posted 06-29-01 11:09 PM

        Bucky
        Member

        From: USA
        Registered: 03-14-00
        Posts: 307
        OK Max
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        Have the player call Sting - document it - back it up. Cris told me I can have a payout anytime from Option - I can transfer to Cris and I can transfer from CRIS to Option. So you are essentially calling CRIS liars. So bring forward players who have not been paid if there are any and let the Prescription know about it, That's what they do - They check it out.
        What else do you know Max? Was this situation created by losses to big credit players? Why can't your friends talk to CRIS about their problem - Why can't they tell the Prescription about it

        posted 07-01-01 03:29 AM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        Bucky
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        All of this has been done. Please go back and check out the other threads on OPTION during the month of of May and June. What happened was some people trusted a person they thought was honorable and he stuck it in them. I'm not going to rehash all of that here. Look for posts by MAD and you'll see exactly what happened. The response by the RX was to print a lame ass statement by CRIS. Advertising dollars seem to mean something here. If you'll check out the thread on BETEUROSPORT you'll see that shrink tried to come to the rescue of that owner also at the request of CRIS. He later backed off slightly due to overwhelming poster support. There are others that know what's happened at OPTION. Ask BELLEZA to respond if you don't believe what you read in those other threads. The principal BM at OPTION has left a trail of debts and ruined friendships a mile long. It's easy to check out. Just read those past threads.
        posted 07-01-01 08:31 AM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        Bucky
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        I want to apologize in being remiss for not answering your question from earlier in this thread. I didn't realize you had been following this situation. You asked " if you own a balance sheet of -$ what do you really own?". The balance sheet wasn't - until the trusted person started putting post-up money in his pocket and also pocketing collections. And their is much more to an office than just the balance sheet. Try equipment, advertising dollars spent and even the website itself. All of that cost a lot of dollars. CRIS is saying the players will be paid. How about the people that really own the site? It must be nice to be the proverbial 600lb gorilla. Eat what you want, take what you want and dump where you want. The only reason I'm discussing this anymore is that you asked. Nothing is going to be done by CRIS to remedy this situation or by the RX. Everytime CRIS farts someone from the RX gets their hair parted. It's a sad situation but then sometimes life is like that. It's just a shame that I keep reading what a class act the CRIS organization is. I had heard that myself in the past. I do feel they were originally misled to some extent to what happened at OPTION and the true situation. But being duped originally and then not doing something about it when the facts come out doesn't absolve them of guilt later. As far as I'm concerned my only posts in the future about OPTION will be to answer direct questions as best as I can. I will not start another thread about this subject ( you can relax now, Shrink. CRIS won't be calling your cell phone and yelling at you).
        posted 07-01-01 09:27 AM

        belleza
        Member

        Registered: 04-30-01
        Posts: 117
        Bucky
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        There is no agenda here. Lots of people are being paid, but not ALL! Max tells the truth. Cris carries a lot of weight-and deserved respect.It doesn't mean he is ALWAYS right! Again, Max tells the truth!
        posted 07-01-01 10:56 AM

        danceswithwolves
        Junior Member

        From: Las Vegas, NV USA
        Registered: 06-01-01
        Posts: 14
        Max 1234
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        Option Sports players are being paid by CRIS.
        posted 07-01-01 11:13 AM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        danceswithwolves
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        We know your enamored of CRIS from your first post. Not all past players are being or have been paid. That's a fact.
        posted 07-01-01 06:52 PM

        Bucky
        Member

        From: USA
        Registered: 03-14-00
        Posts: 307
        Option chatter
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        Max,
        OK on the Player issue - Is it just credit players not getting paid? What is unique about the people you know that are not getting paid - what are they getting told by Option?
        You say that ownership people or investors and yourself have already talked to Shrink in person. He has chosen not to talk about it in the forum so perhaps he is still checking into it. Why don't you invite an actual person that has not been paid into the forum to talk about this? Let's get to the bottom of this from the horse's mouth.
        What seems so outlandish is the accusation of embezzlement and that it is just too bad if it happens in Costa Rica(wouldn't it be nice to have your name on a license that would have to be transferred).
        Did he just give them the money and turn them loose? I wonder how many sportsbooks are owned by outside ownership that doesn't take part in the operation of the business? Kind of like owning a bar and never being there to supervise.
        Had the person you know ever pulled any money out of his investment? Is he out any principal? What about the software? Is there a title on that or anything - couldn't an owner prevent someone else from using software that he bought for this sportsbook.
        What % ownership is in question here and how many investors were there? What happened to the guy that supposedly did the horse trading - where is he at - where is he working?
        I know this is a can of worms and there are two sides to every story and so far the only story we have to go by is yours. Apparently, neither book is going to defend themselves and nobody has any information they are willing to disclose about their side of the issue.
        It sucks because these were two good outs and great places to play but there is just zero confirmation on what the hell is going on!
        posted 07-02-01 04:32 AM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        Bucky
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        What I've posted is the truth. I knew the people involved and if you go back and read this thread and others it spells out clearly. The horsetrader is still at OPTION. He was trusted to take care of and run this site for some long time friends. They assumed that he was honest and would do a good job for them. They assumed wrong. In most foreign countries you have to have a lawyer involved. I'm not knocking all lawyers but that old joke " What do you have when you've got 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?.... A good start" holds true in this case. Due to the Jay Cohen situation certain things have to be done to limit exposure. Unfortunately, these also expose the dangers of investing in a business in CR. You can get f...ed if the people you trust aren't what they appear to be or if they blow their ass playing their own picks. I'll try to answer all of your questions from you last post in order.
        I know of credit players not being paid. One called down and was told he no longer had an account and they had no records of his play. Shrink talked to another poster and is aware of the situation. Unforunately for the real owners of Option, CRIS has taken over the operation. And CRIS advertises heavily everywhere. Dollars speak louder than words in some cases. Your right about the analogy concerning owning a bar.... the bartender drank all the profits. And then he sold the bar to help settle some of his personal debts.
        All along he was also helping himself to money out of the register. And now he owns the bar ( at least partially, I would assume ). Sort of makes the bartender out be a criminal, doesn't it? You're right about this being a can of worms. A can of snakes would be more like it. You mentioned the software and such. From what I understand, all of that type of stuff is leased. Actual computers, phones, etc were paid for by the owners and stolen by the bartender. He just moved it to a new address. The key thing you pointed out was the neither store is saying anything. Why? They have nothing to say that will do anything but make them look worse. CRIS had Shrink print that weak "statement" about friendship and mudslinging and now they hope all of this dies down and goes away. Out of sight, out of mind is how the saying goes. And if I was in CRIS's shoes I would probably do the same thing. That's why attorneys won't let the clients get on the stand and testify if they're guilty. Blow a lot of smoke and hope the truth gets covered up. It's an old strategy and it works a
        lot of the time. What's sad is that a leader in the industry won't do what's right. The principals are out a lot of money. And it doesn't look like they'll ever see any of it.I'm sure there's a lesson to be learned here somewhere. I'm not out a cent in all of this. It's just that I was raised to feel that your word is sacred. And when you don't have that you don't have anything. Even if you think you do, you don't. There are a lot of people that knows what happened in this situation and they've chimed in consistently. A few of CRIS's shills pop off a couple of lines from time to time and then hide. And some posters have come on and then realized they were wrong after checking out this story. All in all, what's done is done. Will something happen down the road, who knows? It's not my business. I'm just the messenger. I'm also keeping to my statement that I would only answer any posts concerning this and nothing more.
        posted 07-02-01 08:42 AM

        Bucky
        Member

        From: USA
        Registered: 03-14-00
        Posts: 307
        Option
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        Well, Max,thanks for your answers. I guess I am going to walk away from it. My account at Option dried up and I took a payout of all funds from CRIS. One of those deals - time for me to move on and not worry about liquidity from these two.
        Can't help but think things like this might happen more often in other sports books in Costa Rica.

        [This message was edited by Bucky on 07-02-01 at 05:03 PM.]

        posted 07-02-01 01:37 PM

        max1234
        Member

        Registered: 06-10-01
        Posts: 89
        Bucky
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        You're welcome. There are too many other places to play to risk playing with someone that's less than honorable. If you look around at all of these threads you'll notice there is quite a bit going on down south. I guess some of these BM's get away from the states and feel they can do whatever they want because they aren't face to face with their players. The latin phrase 'caveat emptor' certainly applies to this industry. I started a thread concerning offshore vs local action last night. One thing not mentioned was the fact that if your local BM stiffs you at least you can hunt him down and find out what's up. That's not as easy when they're 4,000 miles away. Take care and good luck to you.
        posted 07-02-01 11:44 PM

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        • #5
          [QUOTE]Originally posted by Boots:
          [QB]Reno,
          I never said they made qualifacations. They attempt to by shilling their scam w/Reshillity.


          RESHILLITY,
          I'd hate to see how much you write when our biz ISN'T concluded.....btw, One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

          IN YOUR DREAMS!

          [QUOTE]Originally posted by REALITY:
          [B]DAVE,

          I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SITUATION.

          FOR YOU TO TRY AND CYBER-BLACMAIL ME AND DRAG ME IN TO THIS SITUATION JUST SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE RAT THAT YOU ARE.

          IF EVERY POSTER IN THIS FORUM WERE TO LINE UP AGAINST ME I WOULD NEVER THROW A FRIEND UNDER THE BUS.

          THAT IS HONOR AND INTEGRITY.

          AS FOR YOUR BITCH REMARK GET YOUR FAT ASS ON A PLANE FROM TEXAS AND COME TO N.Y. AND I'D BE THRILLED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT...

          REALITY

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