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Its is amazing how many small to medium size books there are that will boot players for making a few "steam" plays. These "new age" clone bookies seem to think that it is against the law for betting a "steam game". I don't know why they even post numbers if they are so scared. I think these so called bookmakers them need to find a new profession.
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Funny you should mention that today. When I called into Gameday today a manager there told me that he thought I was only chasing steam, from looking at my plays. He said that they were not interested in that kind of action.
First, I wonder if these screen-watching steam chasers really win anyway. But I can accept a sportsbook's decision to limit this kind of action, even if it means throwing some players out.
I explained that I was not a steam player, and only played my own plays. But that if I saw the move coming on a play I liked, I certainly went out and played it as quickly as possible (which could make someone mistake me for a steam chaser).
But how many steam plays are there in a given day? Several, for sure. I had only played about one play per week there recently. It's a bit of a mystery to me how I could have been profiled as such.
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Interesting........
You shouldn't be "punished" for being smart. A smart player will obviously try and pop a game he likes if he sees it moving against him.
REALITY- How does the 3 strike rule apply in this case??
As for Steam, a player who plays every and any move will likely lose over time. Especially when several groups are playing at once.
I think what really holds back alot of books when it comes to this, is inadequate software.
I've said it a million times. This is the year 2001. The miracles that can be performed with software on the internet are many. There's really no reason a book can't modify their software in such a way so that they can control the action easier.
Unfortunately, I think there are alot of shops out there that just want to put the book on auto pilot.......Comment
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jeff:
[B]Interesting........
You shouldn't be "punished" for being smart. A smart player will obviously try and pop a game he likes if he sees it moving against him.
REALITY- How does the 3 strike rule apply in this case??
THE 3 STRIKE RULE APPLYS TO "MOVERS" AND "STEAM CHASERS" ONLY.
PLAYERS WHO ONLY CALL WHEN THE SCREEN CHANGES AND ONLY PLAYS WHEN THEY CAN BEAT THE MOVE.
IF A PLAYER LIKE SPORTSHOBBY PLAYED A DOZEN PLAYS A WEEK AND HE HAPPENED TO FALL ON SIX SIDES GOOD LUCK FOR HIM HE PROBABLY HAS A GOOD OPINION...
REALITY
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I don't think so much that the book is so afraid of the game itself, but more the one-sided action all at the same time. You not only have the originators pounding you, the movers pounding you, the steam chasers pounding you, the middlers pounding you, but you also have the sharp players pounding you when they see a side that they are going to play move in a less than desired direction.
I think sportshobby was saying that he was doing the last one listed. If that is true, there is no way he should be shown the door because he played a few hot sides among many games. If a sharp guy playing his own games, sees a line move the way he is going to bet, should he just wait and lay a bad number so he doesn't get kicked out or accused of chasing steam? I don't think so.
I can see the BM's point of veiw on these games as they probably feel helpless at times wondering how much they must open themselves up by having to move too far to get some buyback.
I think it should be obvious to a BM to decifer who is playing their own games and occasionally jumping on the bandwagon and someone who is a bona-fide, screen-watching steam chaser by looking closely at past wagers.Comment
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Frank, well said. I just don't see how I could be profiled as a steam chaser.
[This message has been edited by sportshobby (edited 03-15-2001).]Comment
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Sporthobby's situation is a prime example. Mix in a few steam plays and get shown the door. This practice is becoming all to common.Comment
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This is akin to BJ players getting booted because they count cards.
Of course it's not fair at all but what are you going to do.
I guess you should have a bit of pride that you are singled out as a "risk" to the casino or book but, when you see so many poor saps splitting tens or betting on the Trailblazers, you would think the casino would have enough money left over to let some sharpies use their wits to play the odds which, after all, are still 11/10 against you regardless of steam, sentiment or smarts.
I got kicked out of the Barbary Coast a couple times (as many do) and I actually felt pretty good making the walk from the table to the cashiers window.
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azbob,
Disagree,
Playing the occasional play that steam also plays does not necessarily mean an advantage. That just gambling. Part of the game. Card counting is an advantage.Comment
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Question?
Do vegas books kick you out for chasing steam?Comment
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