Carib does not always pay

[ShiftySheik]

deepsouth, the tracks ziggy mentioned are dog tracks. I couldn't beleive when Carib started booking dogs. When they first started the limits were $50 WPS...now they only take $10 WPS. They must have been getting beat pretty bad...but that's no excuse not to pay.

[marcus]

It appears Carib is from the old school of bookmaking. The bookmaker makes a decision not to pay and whether he is right or wrong he is not willing to budge from his stand. The mentality of, "thats the way I RUN MY SHOP". If that bookmaker would only have the sense to realize that bad publicity will cost him more money in the long run. I am going to assume that we are not hearing the whole story. Why Carib does not respond to these posts bothers me. I have an account with Carib, I am hoping he responds.

[ziggylasvegas]

Originally posted by sportshobby:
What reason did they give for not paying the two races?

None this time. However the original reason was technical problems in getting the results.

[ziggylasvegas]

Originally posted by ShiftySheik:
deepsouth, the tracks ziggy mentioned are dog tracks. I couldn't beleive when Carib started booking dogs. When they first started the limits were $50 WPS...now they only take $10 WPS. They must have been getting beat pretty bad...but that's no excuse not to pay.

Actually their original limits were $100WPS.
I don't know what their original trifecta limits were, but now they are at $2.

[ziggylasvegas]

Originally posted by mls:
I have always had a very high opinion of Carib.

However, if I bet on a horse, it won, and then Carib cancelled my winning bet I would explode! At the very least I would call the licensing authority in Antigua to file a complaint.

It only costs 25 cents and 3-4 minutes to call a track and get results for a race ... I cannot imagine Carib refusing to do so ...

I have said it before - when a book starts refusing to pay winning bets, for whatever trumped up reason - it is ususally a sign that it is in financial difficulty ...

I also hope Carib responds ... I still find it very hard to believe that Carib, with its impeccible reputation, did this ...

The Race division of Carib is located in Belize, not in Antigua.
I actually have an HTML file of their answers
regarding the payoff problems. I will try to paste it here. The first message is the bottom one. Start there and read up.

The first response was to my asking to get paid for the race. The second question is a response to me asking them to wait until the following day to get the results from Rosnet.
I also sent them the telephone number where they could get the results from.
After they paid me for the race inquestion, I asked them to go back several days to pay me on another race they also did not pay me on. They then took back the money they paid me for the race and sent me the last response.

Reporting for user:
Document created on Tue Oct 17 at 5:04:37 pm ET Available Balance:
Book Staff to Customer Messages for Tue Oct 17
Date + Time Message Received

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Tue Oct 17
4:01:24 pm You get nothing, including the one from yesterday. We have no results that are dependable and we graded all tickets no action. If you dont like this then cash out and find someone else to supply you with money. Diane Yes

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Tue Oct 17
3:46:56 pm Robert, I will look into it immediately and get back to you a.s.a.p. Diana Yes

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Tue Oct 17
3:09:01 pm Dear Robert, Flagler race #8 has been properly paid and your account has been updated. We are really sorry for any inconvenience caused. Diana Yes

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Tue Oct 17
12:51:49 pm Dear Robert, At the moment we are still looking into the situation. As soon as we find the results we will post it and pay it immediately. But until then it will remain no-action. Diana Yes

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Tue Oct 17
12:19:31 am Robert, we will leave the race open until tomorrow and then pay it when we get the results. If we do not get the results by tomorrow we will pay it no action. Thanks. anthea Yes

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Tue Oct 17
12:09:43 am Robert, we are sorry but rosnet is have technical difficulties and we were unable to get the results for that race. Sorry for the inconvenience and have a great day. anthea Yes

[mls]

ziggylasvegas - At this point you need to E-mail or call Jeff at Bettorsworld and ask that he intervene. I think his e-mail is Jeff@bettorsworld.com (correct someone if I am wrong).

Jeff was very helpful when I faced a no-pay situation a couple of years ago.

I know at least a dozen people who have a combined total of a healthy 6 figures with Carib.

We all really need to know Jeff's investigation and results. If he reports that Carib has stiffed you then many many customers will take heed ...

[ShiftySheik]

Why are they still booking dog races where they can't get "dependable results"?

[marcus]

Any updates on this situation?

[tim]

I saw what this guy was about years ago and closed my account, never to return.

[Underdog7]

Carib is one those outs that I haven't signed out yet, which will never be a customer.

ziggylasvegas has a very serious complaint here and nobody from Carib ever bother to explain and yet they are claiming they have the best customer service. Come on!!! Don't hide and could someone from your shop at least explain your side. Don't be a coward!!

[Jeff]

For the record, I have heard Caribs side of the story.

I'm pretty sure I know who Ziggy Las Vegas is......

Ziggy, feel free to contact me if you want to present your side and feel you have a legit case.

Jeff

[sportshobby]

Tim, can you elaborate?

[tim]

Without getting into specifics, some issues with the owner's character. Also, he has been known to blame everyone but his employees' for their frequent mistakes, etc. It was an easy decision to close my account.

[marcus]

tim, As far as mistakes by his employees, can I assume they were minor? Nothing like putting in thr wrong bet I hope. I know this is the self acclaimed #1 site for off-shore gamblers so you would think people from Carib would respond to somebody complainlng of not being paid. This is bad business and poor customer service.