SOS confirmation

[Jeff]

In keeping our word in reporting ONLY the facts we have been in touch with the proper people and can confirm that Bob from SOS was put on a plane from Antigua to Puerta Rico this morning.

The reason for this action is unclear at this time. The reason cannot be confirmed or denied at this point.

Everything is business as usual at SOS and we have been told that we can expect more factual updates in due time.

[DeacDoug]

I can assume that this means Bob will be subject to arrest the minute he lands if the feds are aware of the situation. His exodus back to the States (Puerto Rico) and JC's voluntary return create the same legal factual setting to my mind. It is immaterial that Bob did not return of his own volition. But then maybe one JC case is enough for the feds to get the point across, particularly since that one is not yet won for certain.

[Jeff]

Bob is awaiting a hearing in PR, with the Magistrate, which will be held within a day or two, at which point, he will be brought back to Mass to face charges. It is not clear at this time, just what the charges are.

Keep in mind, in JC's case, the complaints were handed down, and then JC voluntarily returned. As far as we know, this is much different. We don't believe there was any warning/complaint handed down here.




[This message has been edited by Jeff (edited 08-17-2000).]

[bbuster]

This situation has been posted on this and other sites. On other sites it was posted in the spirit that the bettors who have an account at SOS need to know this information. IMO this is an unfortunate situation and should remain a private one until all the facts are known rather than have people speculate. The reason given for posting on the other sites is not a valid concern. The FACTS are that the other Antiguan sportsbooks will not allow one sportsbooks misfortune/situation affect bettors posted up money, if it ever came to that which I doubt it ever would.

[bigtimehoops]

Is this an offshore or local problem.


BTH

[DoggieStyle]

I would assume this was because of business dealings on United States soil. The only other way this could have happened I think is if the U.S. charged him with some kind of money laudering charge.

This brings up the REAL problem that will come soon.

When the U.S. passes the updated law making gambling on-line ILLEGAL, Will these Countrys still license these Books? If they continue to take bets from the United States they will be breaking laws that even these Countrys can't hide from!

If there is a law saying UNITED STATES CITIZENS can't gamble on the Internet, That also will make it ILLEGAL for anyone, ANYWHERE to ACCEPT bets..... FROM U.S. CITIZENS!

Will all these Countrys protect the books???????????????????????

It is scary...............

[Demon]

These countries have zero obligation to abide by US laws.
Castro could pass a law tommorow stating it is ILLEGAL for anyone ANYWHERE to say the word "Cuba",and the people of America would respect that law about as much as other countries respect the US's gambling laws..

[thechin]

have i missed something ?? can someone explain to me how the antiguan govt. justifies this, when the other co-owners of WSEX are "fugitives" and free to live their life in antigua w/o being extradited/deported ?

[skeptic]

thechin,

Obviously Mr. Eremian was deported dor something other than gambling. We don't know what that is and we don't know if it's true, the man has a right to have his side of the story heard.

[Cons]

What is the current situation with extradition these days? From what I know there are many countries which will not extradite their own citizens. So even if you happened to bring down the World Trade Center, as long as you were back in the country of citizenship extradition to the US would not be a concern.

Since most of these people cannot step foot on US soil, it doesn't seem logical to hang on to their US passport. It only makes matters worse in extradition proceedings. Why not ditch the passport and put in the effort to get a different one? It changes your situation altogether. Mr Blandford of Sportingbet had no trouble flying in to the US, and he will surely continue to target the American market aggressively.

It's no secret that the US gov't is only targetting its own citizens. It can't really target foreign citizens, as nobody is really breaking the law. But as has always been the case in history, you can do whatever you want to your own citizens, good or bad, right or wrong, as long as they are your citizens.

Most of these people who can't return to the US should seek out ways of claiming another passport, so that they can then turn in their US one as soon as possible.

[Underdog7]

U.S. gov't. had tightened-up on extradition proceedings lately. As far as I know, if you'd done something illegal in the U.S. and you went out of the country, it's either you're an American citizen or an immigrant they have the power to extradite you and serve the sentence here in U.S.

[Jeff]

Far as I know, the bookmaking charges, such as the charges brought against Jay, are not something the gov't would bother extraditing over.

[mls]

All international extradition treaties require that the offense alleged be a crime in BOTH countries.

He as not extradited for bookmaking ...

[Cons]

Junior, that's not exactly so, because extradition does not depend upon US law as much as it does on the law of the country from which the person is to be extradited. It is not the decision of the US, but the decision of the other country.

It all depends on the extradition treaties that each country signed. US law can only change the approach of US authorities, not the laws of different countries. Many European countries did not agree to ever have their citizens extradited to the US for any reason (terrorism included), and the US gov't can't lay a finger on them if they go back home. But if a US citizen happened to go to that country then he could be extradited.

But I agree that in this case it must have been more serious that just bookmaking, as I don't think extradition would even be possible on these charges.

[auspice]

boys.....wasn't he deported not extradited?