Intertops posts odds on Gore running mates

[Jeff]

INTERTOPS.COM LETS THE PUBLIC PLAY THE VEEPSTAKES

Internet Bookmaker Offers Odds On Who Al Gore Will Choose as Running
Mate, Kerry the Favorite But Will Clinton Stay in Washington?

ST. JOHN'S, ANTIGUA (August 1, 2000)-With the Republican National
Convention underway and the Democratic Convention quickly approaching,
both George W. Bush and Al Gore are carefully positioning themselves
in the eyes of American voters. Bush made the first move last week by
announcing **** Cheney as his running mate. The attention now focuses
on Presidential candidate Al Gore and the Democratic Party. Amid the
speculation that Gore will announce his selection just prior to the
convention in Los Angeles, today Intertops.com became the first
established online bookmaker to accept wagers on who will be selected
as the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee.

The Internet's first and largest sports betting site, Intertops.com
has listed Senator John Kerry (D) Mass., as the early favorite to be
nominated - currently listing him at 6/4 odds (i.e., win $6 for every
$4 bet). Intertops.com also feels that Congressman Richard Gephardt
(D) MO listed at 2/1, Senator Evan Bayh (D) Ind. (5/2), and Senator
Bob Graham (D) Fla. (4/1) have a solid chance at grabbing the
nomination.

"The American public has always been enamored with politics and the
rigorous presidential selection process. With both parties presenting
strong presidential candidates, the vice presidential nominee is
likely to be the deciding factor in this race," said Simon Noble,
executive director and co-founder of Intertops.com. "Now, as the race
is just heating up, Intertops.com enables the public to show their
support for who they believe will become vice president."

In addition, Intertops.com also has created individual odds for
Senator Tom Harkin (D) Iowa, listed at 5/1, and Senator John Edwards
(D) NC, listed at 12/1. George Mitchell, former Senator of Maine, is
listed at 15/1. Rounding out the field are Senator Joseph Lieberman
(D) Conn., 20/1, and President Bill Clinton at 100/1. All other
remaining candidates have been included in 'the Field,' currently
listed at 12/1 odds. Current odds are subject to change.

"Some people might question our odds on President Clinton, but we need
to be realistic about this situation," Noble continued. "If Hillary
wins her race for Senate in New York, she'll be spending a fair amount
of time in Washington, leaving President Clinton to find a new job.
Let's face it, President Clinton is a strong campaigner and has a
presence with the voters. He could make the difference."

About Intertops.com

Intertops.com (www.intertops.com) is the Internet's first and largest
sports betting site that also offers a full range of online casino
games and more than 200 betting options daily. Incorporated and fully
licensed in St. John's, Antigua in 1997, Intertops.com was spun off
from Intertops Sportwetten Gesellschaft m.b.H., a leading European
sports bookmaker licensed in Europe since 1982. Intertops.com uses
state of the art software solutions and works with world leaders in
electronic commerce in order to provide traditional betting and gaming
elements in a secure online environment. With the Web's lowest
deposit and minimum bet requirements. Intertops.com makes the online
betting experience fun and exciting for novice players and serious
bettors alike. Since 1995, Intertops.com has offered more than $400
million in payouts, and is annually reviewed and advised by the
accounting firm of KPMG.

[Railbird]

Did any one get the 20-1.
will this guy help or hurt AL gore.

[Greedo]

It helps Gore huge on the morality issue which is really Bush Jr's only trump card.

USA TODAY had a quick snapshot poll after the selection showing a virtual tie now as opposed to a double digit Gore deficit.

when I checked yesterday, CARIB which has been the high book on the block for the DEMS @ +190 was down to +170 (which I believe is where olympic was as well)

anybody who likes Gore is advised to jump in him now as the Convention is coming up and there's always a bounce after that. I look for a 50/50 race (and hence even betting) from here on out.

too close to call. should come down to the electoral college resutlts on a state by state basis as opposed to a nation wide (ala Clinton) romp.

fwiw - i said it before a few months ago, if the economy stays good, GORE WINS

[The Guesser]

I'm no Gore fan, and I certainly don't want him to win, either emotionally or finacially. I make more with a Bush win Offshore, BUT the selection of Lieberman was pure political GENIUS and one I frankly didn't think Gore had the balls to make. Rightly or Wrongly, Lieberman is perceived as the ONE Dem who had the integrity to chastise Clinton Publically and first. Gore HAS to seperate himself from Clinton in order to have any chance, and Lieberman was a Serious first step in that regard. It takes away the Clinton = Gore line that Bush was gonna hammer, hammer, Hammer!! Lieberman will help to bring home the Anti Clinton Dems, which are a far larger group than the media would let you believe exists (I'm one). The Convention, Clinton's Mea Culpa and "don't Blame Gore for My problems" is the next. This will be a serious horserace and I concur that getting odds with Gore NOW is the way to go. If Ralph Nader drops out, Gore will win fairly easily. If not, it's thisclose!!

[Railbird]

Guesser,

I dont think Nader gets the votes Pistol Pat Buchannan gets,who picked a black lady vp.


I am just glad to be in California where second hand smoke is not in bars or restraunts.

[The Guesser]

Pat and the schitzoid Reform party have become a National Joke, and he'll be lucky to get 2% of the vote. Nader will get somewhere between 7-10% and can be a difference maker in the election if he stays in.

[Cons]

Lieberman will only help Gore in the short term. In the long term Bush's vistory is now sealed.

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Believe Guesser has this pegged correctly.

While I don't smoke anymore I find it amusing that while in buffet the other day lady who weighed bout 250 sittng on border of smoking area had just filled her plate for the 3rd time was complaining about secondary smoke being bad for her health.
Since heart disease is largest killer and 78% of americans are overweight this would lead me to believe that obesity may be more costly than smoking.Maybe next class action suit will be against buffets for letting them eat all they can eat.

[AussieVamp2]

According to Odds On Magazine, using the system from that spread betting book I read, their analysis is the same, around even after giving points for all the factors, slight edge to Gore - so underdog price the way to go

[auspice]

Despite his appeal on a national basis, the selection of Lieberman will be the kiss of death in some of the swing states which the democrats must carry.

In Ohio where the democrats have to win, the selection of a jewish running mate that is pro-choice is suicide. You can mail in the results right now. It's over. Makes you wonder how much political acuman Gore really has.

[Cons]

Bush is now (un)officially the new president of the USA. Gore's silly mistake will cost him dearly. Pile up on Bush and don't even worry about the final result.

[This message has been edited by Cons (edited 08-12-2000).]

[Bette Midler]

Auspice...

Please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Howard Metzenbaum, a pro choice Democrat, elected to three terms as Senator from Ohio? I don't see why you think the selection of Lieberman hurts Gore in the industrial midwest. I've heard some analysts suggest it actually helps Gore in some of these states, such as Michigan and Wisconsin. The only states where the VP selection hurts gore is in the deep south, where he is not going to win anyway. States like Florida, however, which were leaning Bush, may now be a toss up. I believe the selection of Leiberman has made this election closer, and I agree with the Guesser that it was a gutsy call to make.

[reno]

Dogs that Bark, here in Vegas, the buffet capital of the world, we have thousands of professional "buffettes," people who live to eat. These typically fat slobs wander into a casino buffet for breakfast. Then by the time they finish with that meal, it's time for lunch. After a long lunch, they're ready for dinner. At the end of the day, they've received three meals for the price of one.

I once told a buffette that he should do some exercise. And he replied that he is into stretching...his stomach.

[Cons]

Southern states will gather strongly against a pro-choice candidate...

It's a pity Collin Powell isn't starting up front for the Republicans. But then a line of -2000 wouldn't be much fun, would it?

[auspice]

to Bette Midler:

You're absolutely right. Howard Metzembaum served 3 terms as a pro-choice senator here in Ohio. And you know something? I'd bet good money when the Gore people were huddled in their war room discussing running mates that Howard's name came up because of the same "jewish pro-choice" similarity and Howards' success here in the buckeye state.

Ohio being perhaps the one state that the democrats have to win (no president has ever been elected without carrying Ohio) i'm sure there's been a lot of mid-night oil spent on thinking out how to carry Ohio.

But the problem in trying to "copy" a winning formula of someone else is that you're not someone else. And I certainly don't mean that in a deragatory (god i wish i had learned to spell that word) way.

Howard had worked in Ohio in various civil elected positions, including the House of Represenatives, about a 100 years or so before ever becoming a senator. He had built a constituency with years and years of well served public service championing the working man at every available opportunity.

He actually was known and recognized via T.V. and radio long before he ever ran for election on a statewide basis. He was in the minds and consciousness of voters long before pro-choice became an issue.

The campaign that will be run in Ohio by the Republicans will stress the differences between Lieberman and the masses. You can book that. It will be brought out.

If Gore had chosen a non pro-choice running mate, I believe he could have still counted on getting the non pro-choice democrats swing voters out there. Not now. He's completely bifercated the democratic party into pro-choice and non pro-choice. There's no doubt this year as to the democrats stand on the issue this year with the selection of Lieberman.

I believe this issue will be their downfall here in the home of the Browns state.