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  • #16
    As far as basketball goes, obviously that has more international appeal, and if you look up some posts by Penguin you will see some discussion on German and Austrian bookmaking and basketball.

    Again, college basketball holds no interest there either, of course.

    Have never seen an American bookmaker offer lines on European basketball though

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    • #17
      Reality,

      No Olympic lines at Olympic.

      Ironic? Reverse-Oxymoronic?

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      • #18
        isn't line copying a long-standing bookmaking tradition? Particularly in the American cases where there are hardly any linemakers?

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        • #19
          2000 Sydney
          Olympic Games


          Men's 100m
          Athlete Win Race
          Maurice Greene 2.35
          Ato Boldon 3.00
          Bruny Surin 5.50
          Frankie Fredericks 10.00
          Dwain Chambers 11.00
          Francis Obikwelu 13.00
          Leonard Myles-Mills 15.00
          Donovan Bailey 17.00
          Obadele Thompson 21.00
          Tim Harden 21.00
          Matt Shirvington 21.00
          Jon Drummond 21.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Men's 200m
          Athlete Win Race
          Michael Johnson 2.50
          Maurice Greene 3.25
          Ato Boldon 4.75
          Francis Obikwelu 7.00
          Frankie Fredericks 10.00
          Claudinei da Silva 12.00
          John Capel 15.00
          Obadele Thompson 31.00
          Coby Miller 41.00
          Julian Golding 41.00
          Marcin Urbas 41.00
          Jon Drummond 41.00
          Aaron Armstrong 41.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Men's 400m
          Athlete Win Race
          Michael Johnson 1.25
          Antonio Pettigrew 9.00
          Jerome Young 9.00
          Ewan Thompson 11.00
          Sanderlei Parrela 15.00
          Derrick Brew 21.00
          Jamie Baulch 26.00
          Mark Richardson 41.00
          Alejandro Cardenas 41.00
          Sugarth Tillakeratne 41.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Men's 800m
          Athlete Win Race
          Wilson Kipketer 1.40
          Juriy Borzakovski 6.00
          Hezekiel Sepeng 5.50
          Japheth Kimutai 7.50
          Andre Bucher 15.00
          William Chirchir 15.00
          Djabir Said Guerni 11.00
          David Kiptoo 18.00
          Nils Schumann 31.00
          Benjamin Kipkurui 31.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Women's 100m
          Athlete Win Race
          Marion Jones 1.80
          Inger Miller 3.25
          Ekaterini Thanou 6.00
          Glory Alozie 11.00
          Gail Devers 15.00
          Christine Arron 16.00
          Sevatheda Fynes 18.00
          Zhana Pintusevich 31.00
          Andrea Phillip 31.00
          Irina Privalova 31.00
          Angela Williams 41.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Women's 200m
          Athlete Win Race
          Marion Jones 2.00
          Inger Miller 3.00
          Christine Arron 10.00
          Merlene Frazer 10.00
          Debbie Ferguson 10.00
          Melinda Gainsford 15.00
          Beverly McDonald 17.00
          Fatima Yusuf 18.00
          Zhana Pintusevich 26.00
          Andrea Philipp 26.00
          Muriel Hurtis 31.00
          Tania Van Heer 31.00
          Lauren Hewitt 41.00
          Nova Peris Kneebone 61.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Women's 400m
          Athlete Win Race
          Cathy Freeman 2.85
          Anja Rucker 4.00
          Falilat Ogunkoya 6.00
          Ionela Tirlea 6.00
          Marie Jose Perec 6.00
          Jearl Miles Clark 9.50
          Grit Breuer 13.00
          Lorraine Graham 15.00
          Marion Jones 21.00
          Natalya Nazarova 26.00
          Katherine Merry 26.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          Women's 800m
          Athlete Win Race
          Svetlana Masterkova 2.50
          Ludmila Formanova 3.25
          Maria Mutola 4.00
          Jearl Miles Clark 6.00
          Stephanie Graf 10.00
          Natalya Tsyganova 13.00
          Kelly Holmes 15.00
          Hasna Benhassi 18.00
          Irina Mistyukevich 31.00
          All In. Win Only. Quote Others.
          Payout on medal presentation.



          All prices subject to DAS Official Rules

          Mark Read's Darwin All Sports Home Page

          Email: support@international-allsports.com.au

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          • #20
            Sportsbet has these :-

            2000 GAMES MENS HOCKEY GOLD MEDAL
            2000 GAMES WOMENS HOCKEY GOLD MEDAL
            2000 GAMES WOMENS 400M TO WIN FINAL
            2000 GAMES MENS 100M FREESTYLE 20/9

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            • #21
              AV2,

              I never read about that tradition anywhere. I didnt know that Americans had the cloning market cornered. This gent is from across the pond. You know London, England not Utah.

              Thanks for the odds--however they omitted the badmitten prices

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              • #22
                AV2,

                Would love to see some real lines on American sports put up by European books. Do you think they make lines on bases and baskets.

                DEVIL

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                • #23
                  Hell, even blondes can be European bookmakers. Just get close, charge 20-40% vig, and count the money.

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                  • #24
                    No, the chain firms in England are worse, they have the taxes, and they still increase their markets - pretty amazing given competition, although that is moving obviously

                    Some other European places have government monopolies so they do what they like (Veikkaus etc.) imagine the DC Sportsbook - 45 million phone accounts

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                    • #25
                      bit of variety here......

                      AWien - GAK
                      05/07/00 18:30 Ried - Bregenz
                      05/07/00 18:30 StGra - LASK
                      05/07/00 18:30
                      1 X 2 1 X 2 1 X 2
                      bet&win 1,60 3,30 4,50 1,65 3,25 4,25 1,30 4,25 7,00
                      bet-at-home.com 1,75 3,10 3,45 1,65 3,10 3,80 1,30 3,80 6,00
                      Betzone.com 1,55 3,30 5,00 1,60 3,40 4,50 1,35 4,00 6,50
                      Cash Point 1,75 3,00 3,40 1,75 3,00 3,40 1,25 3,50 7,50
                      Centrebet 1,65 3,30 4,50 1,70 3,20 4,30 1,35 4,00 7,00
                      Chance 1,85 3,20 4,10 1,70 3,30 4,50 1,40 3,90 7,00
                      CLOVERbetting 1,60 3,00 4,00 1,60 3,00 4,00 1,30 3,80 6,50
                      Expekt.com 1,65 3,35 4,15 1,65 3,35 4,15 1,30 3,95 8,00
                      Fonbet Bookmakers 1,60 3,20 4,40 1,55 3,25 4,70
                      Graz Sportwetten 1,80 3,00 3,30 1,60 3,00 4,00 1,25 4,00 7,00
                      Intertops 1,55 3,25 4,50 1,60 3,10 4,30 1,25 4,00 7,50
                      INTERwetten 1,60 3,20 4,20 1,55 3,30 4,50 1,25 4,30 8,00
                      Norsk Tipping 1,35 3,30 4,85
                      Oddset 1,70 2,90 3,20 1,60 2,90 3,60 1,30 3,40 5,40
                      Play Off Betting 1,60 3,30 3,95 1,60 3,30 3,95 1,25 4,00 7,65
                      Profesjonal 1,55 3,40 4,80 1,64 3,30 4,20 1,26 4,50 7,40
                      sportingbet.com 1,67 3,20 4,33 1,67 3,20 4,33 1,33 4,00 7,00
                      Sportwetten 1,60 3,20 4,20 1,55 3,30 4,40 1,30 3,80 6,70
                      SSP International 1,65 3,10 4,00 1,60 3,25 4,00 1,40 3,75 5,50
                      Wettbüro Schwechat 1,55 3,20 4,20 1,60 3,20 3,80 1,30 3,70 6,50
                      Wien-West SportWetten 1,55 3,20 4,00 1,60 3,00 3,70 1,30 3,50 6,50
                      William Hill 1,55 3,75 4,40 1,60 3,70 4,10 1,30 4,40 7,00

                      Average 1,62 3,22 4,16 1,62 3,21 4,12 1,30 3,93 6,88
                      Lowest 1,35 2,90 3,20 1,55 2,90 3,40 1,25 3,40 5,40
                      Highest 1,85 3,75 5,00 1,75 3,70 4,70 1,40 4,50 8,00
                      Probabilities 53% 27% 21% 53% 27% 21% 66% 22% 12%

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                      • #26
                        reno,

                        as far as handball goes, few juicy lines at the world handball championships a while back, then again, if you aren't interested, you aren't interested

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                        • #27



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                          OLYMPICS
                          Fixture

                          Book

                          Fixture Start Time

                          Mens 1500m Freestyle

                          Mens 1500m Freestyle
                          Mens 1500m Freestyle
                          Sep 23 2000 00:00 CST

                          Mens 1500m Freestyle- Will Perkins Qualify?

                          PERKINS Will Qualify V PERKINS Wont Qualify
                          PERKINS Will Qualify V PERKINS Wont Qualify
                          Sep 29 2000 00:00 CST

                          Mens Handball

                          Mens Gold Medal
                          Mens Gold Medal
                          Sep 16 2000 09:00 CST

                          Womens Handball

                          Womens Gold Medal
                          Womens Gold Medal
                          Sep 17 2000 14:00 CST

                          Womens Hockey

                          Gold Medal
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 16 2000 08:00 CST

                          Mens Hockey

                          Gold Medal
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 16 2000 13:00 CST

                          Womens 400m Final- Sydney 2000

                          Womens 400m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Womens 400m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Sep 25 2000 00:00 CST

                          Womens 200m Final- Sydney 2000

                          Womens 200m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Womens 200m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Sep 28 2000 00:00 CST

                          Womens 100m Final- Sydney 2000

                          Womens 100m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Womens 100m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Sep 23 2000 00:00 CST

                          Mens 800m Final- Sydney 2000

                          Mens 800m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Mens 800m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Sep 27 2000 00:00 CST

                          Mens 400m Final- Sydney 2000

                          Mens 400m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Mens 400m Final- Sydney 2000
                          Sep 25 2000 00:00 CST

                          Softball

                          Gold Medal
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 17 2000 10:00 CST

                          Football

                          Mens Gold Medal
                          Mens Gold Medal
                          Sep 14 2000 00:00 CST

                          Swimming

                          Mens 50m Freestyle
                          Gold Medal


                          Mens 200m Breaststroke
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 19 2000 09:30 CST

                          Mens 200m Individual Medley
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 20 2000 09:30 CST

                          Mens 400m Individual Medley
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 17 2000 09:30 CST

                          Womens 50m Freestyle
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 22 2000 09:30 CST

                          Womens 100m Freestyle
                          Gold Medal
                          Sep 20 2000 08:30 CST




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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by reno:
                            Ronbets, if you think I'm in good mental shape now, just wait till after my sessions with "the Shrink." I'll be so psychologically well-adjusted that I could very well end up as the poster person for the American Psychiatric Association.
                            GOOD MORNING RENO,

                            WERE YOU REFERING TO YOUR SESSIONS WITH REALITY HERE?

                            REALITY

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                            • #29
                              Thank you Gentlemen for all your postings on the said subject.
                              No I am not the BM at Betmaker but I know a man who is.
                              Interesting there's so much interest in a sports event that some of you aren't interested in !
                              Matrix.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sportshobby:
                                Hell, even blondes can be European bookmakers. Just get close, charge 20-40% vig, and count the money.
                                Ok, this one is an 'American' bookmaker

                                169 Sturm Graz -140
                                170 Austria Wien +300
                                171 Sturm Graz vs Austria Wien Tie +220

                                That's a 114% market or thereabouts boys and girls, which is probably around what everyone else is offering, so nothing too impressive there.

                                Having a look at the average from 25 bookies or so from betagent, their home price is above average, draw price is below and away price is below, so pretty average all around.

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