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  • #16
    Guesser> well put

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    • #17
      So the final is over. Can anybody tell us now which player was caught offside and which player was not? Use eurosoccer.com or whatever you want. I doubt you can.
      By the way Inzaghi was not on the field. So is it a push or a bet on Inzaghi not to be caught offside won?
      I am pretty sure it is a push, but is it clearly stated in the Olympic's rules?

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      • #18
        Alec, I think you've made a good point to all the books. Especially for props, there must be some fine print that describes things, how they're graded, the source, etc.

        Kudos to Spiro for acknowledging that. Now let's see if the others follow.

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        • #19
          The point on this one is that it is highly nebulous - and highly rortable if you work for eurosoccer.com

          Things like goals, times, number of free throws O'Neal misses are cut and dried measurables, this one isn't, and could be trouble for the bookmaker.

          I can look at footballone and see if he was awarded one or not, or eurosoccer.com. If I happen to have access to the databases/websites for either, I can make them display 0, 1, 2 or whatever I want.

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          • #20
            So, now you understand why will I have a 45/1 odds for grading this prop.

            Actually, I riped you off big time. It should be something like 4500/1.

            I gurantee even if a "possible situation" happened for this prop, nobody would dare to grade it.

            Sometime, you can't even prove it from the vedio tape, not to mention stats from a website.

            When 2 to 3 guys will fall in an offside trap, do you know/can you prove which of them will be "caught" offside?

            Not even the refs on the field can tell you about it.

            I don't mean to blame Olympic, if fact they are far from ready to offer "props" in soccer (although they are actually ahead of most of the offshores), I don't believe Spiro will actually understand the situation of an offside.

            This is just another classic example of "sucker bets".

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            • #21
              Techs do count as personals in some levels,maybe NCAA?

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              • #22
                AussieVamp2, AYCE,

                Exactly. I think it is obvious for everybody with a basic knowledge in soccer that it is impossible to grade such a bet. And if you take your grading information from one site (I still doubt that any site would give such information) you become dependent on this site and all it's errors, not talking about the actions made on purpose.

                But this is just one and very clear example.

                In the book I used to work we had a little bit more detailed rules, than most of the books here do. Still we had many conflicts with the customers, which understood the rules differently than we did.

                Amazingly, I have never read about such a conflict here at BW. Why? All we hear are bad lines and the books that just don't pay.

                AYCE,
                Can you, please, explain what you mean by "sucker bet". I have a vague concept of the word sucker. Is a "sucker bet" a bet that only suckers make?
                And talking about variety before I meant something different from this "offside" bet.

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