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  • #46
    LysanderSpooner,

    I accept your explanation that your rant wasnt personal. OK, now that we lowered the flame lets discuss these losses of liberty you are worried about. Your fears are the exception(rogue cops) not the rule.

    Hate groups targeted gays, non-whites, etc. No cancer here. Hate crime laws were enacted to protect these minorities. They were nt herded in rail cars to horrible destinations. Surly, not the work of a "police state".

    Strict adherence to the Fourth Amendment is fine on paper. In the 21st century it needs a tuneup. The professional terrorist would thrive like a wolf in a chicked coop with the time gap between warrant application and actual execution. Over zealous and rogue cops with this additional power will eat us up too. I will take my shot with the latter and hope Internal Affairs slaps their hand. Get with the space age world.

    Do you think our forefathers envisioned skyjacking way back in the 18th century? Only birds flew then. Did we lose liberty when metal detectors were installed to thwart these terrorists? I feel for the guy that has his money consficated after showing up on these airport X-Ray machines . The rogue cops conveniently assume hes an illegal courier.

    You are a man of strong principles. An admirable trait, but in my opinion they need honing. What might be appropriate in 1776 may be less appropriate in 2000.

    Im slightly familiar with your Libertarian Party. A couple from Chicago put me on to the newsletter a few year back when Texan Ron Paul ran for President. I read their Statement of Principles. Another time--Ron

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    • #47
      L-spooner,
      The only thing racist about me is that the fact that I cannot stand people now who do not pay taxes. All the illegal people in this country are flat out killing all the hard working people. In 1999 54% of my income went to tax. When I look out the window and see some foreigner working for cash it kills me. Why should he get everything and every service in the USA that I get. He doesn't pay for it. I do. This is why the government has to get as much as they can off people like me. It is easy to find me and collect from me. It is impossible to collect from all the illegal aliens here now. All the lotteries go for schools right? Since this country is now flooded with immigrants all the schools are slowed way down. My kids suffer even though their dad pays 54% tax. Fair? No way!!!!

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      • #48
        Johnny DeMarco may be a......or a......but NOT A RACIST.--Ron

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        • #49
          Gee Johnny, I didn't know that there was actually anyone in this country who paid 54% in taxes AND sent their kids to public school.

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          • #50
            Chester,
            The IRS rocked me from 1995 thru 1998. They took it all. The only one I have left is my 5 year old and now she goes to catholic
            school. That's why I can't stand illegals. If the feds put as much effort into getting them to pay their fair share we'd all be better off. It is killing American economics.

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            • #51
              Johny, unless you're a Native American, you are an immigrant as well. The nation was build upon immigrants, and that's exactly what your family was a while back.

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              • #52
                Yes but those guys didn't pay 54% taxes! I'm no better than the next guy, green blue yellow black. But he is not better than me either. Everybody should pay the same. Everyone should receive equal benefits too.

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                • #53
                  must be tough paying tax on all those millions you were talking about Johnny

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                  • #54
                    AV,
                    Are taxes tough in Austrailia too?

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                    • #55
                      LysanderSpooner - you are mistaken about needing one of 12. Some states have held that 11-1 is good enough for them and the Supreme Court agreed. So much for juries.

                      The truth is that this country is gone to the crooked politicians - and everyone who doesn't raise he11 is to blame.

                      There has never been as much freedom in this country as people like to believe. I can cite case after case after case in US history.

                      Best advice - lay low, be smart and experiment until you find the gaps in the government's nets.

                      There are many good ways to move large amounts of cash - just don'ty expect to find them posted in a forum.

                      As always - Good Luck,

                      Sonny
                      As Always - Good Luck,

                      Sonny

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