Is It Better To Bet From CA or NV?

[Alpine]

I am a California resident who spends a significant amount of time in the casinos adjacent to the California/Nevada border. It is equally as convenient for me to call in an offshore sports bet from CA or NV. My question is which state am I better off making the call from? I had always heard that Nevada laws were tough on offshore sportsbetting, but Bsky2 makes it sound like it is actually worse for me to bet from CA.

Also, if it really is currently illegal for me to make offshore sports bets - then what is the point of the Kyl bill?

Any accurate info would be greatly appreciated.

[Bette Midler]

Alps,

The Kyl Bill would make it a FEDERAL offense to wager over the internet. What you are dealing with now between NV & CA are state rules regarding offshore wagering.

Hope someone with more knowledge than I can add to this.

[reno]

I've been betting over the Internet in California and Nevada for the past 2.5 years with nary a problem from either state government. Unless you're an ultra big-time player or mover, I don't think you have anything to worry about at this time. These states are not currently looking to bust recreational Internet players.

[BigMoney]

I think Reno's right that there's really no need to worry much in either case. But isn't CA the only state that actually makes it a felony offense to place a wager?

[bsky2]

Bette, the Kyl bill has been changed to not make it a federal offense to wager over the internet.

In Nevada it is a misdemeanor to bet over the internet or with an illegal bookmaker. I think only 1 person has been charged with this statue since it became law.

Big Money, I don't know of any other state other than California that it's a felony to place an wager with an illegal bookmaker. I am not an attorney but there may be more.

Alpine, the Feds and or State prosecutors are not looking to prosecute casual bettors. They want bookmakers and movers, so your chances of being prosecuted for betting $100 on Dallas is very, very slim just like Reno said.

[Bette Midler]

Reno...

How do you define a "recreational" internet player? Bsky indicates that a $100 play will not attract unwanted attention, however, you and I both know that scalpers must make more substantial plays on both sides of a game in order to eek out a small profit. Will someone who regularly plays 4 to 5 dimes per side per play be a target over the long haul?

Any clarification between what you consider to be recreational play vs. "big time player or mover" would be most welcome.

As always, your insights and opinion on this matter have my utmost respect.

[WhiteShoes]

anyone know whether gentleman bets between
two persons are legal anywhere? (or
every where as I was once told) Why isn't
there someplace

(a bar, sports-pub, tavern, video
poker palace, strip-joint, donut
shop....basically anywhere that people meet to sit around and shoot the breeze)

where they hold the money for a bet and the
two sides agree on terms by writing it down
and signing it? (the paper napkin version
of a ticket)