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    This has become a big topic. Books going to the 20 cent line. I have stated a number of times Skybook will stay with the 10 cent line and we will. We will use the same line we always use. When the fav is 92 cents then the line will sway from the 10 cent platform. That is the norm.
    In years past there were bookmakers. Very good ones and very successful ones. Bookmaking is a talent and a skill. Today there are 100`s upon 100`s of sportsbooks out there. Because one takes sportbets that does not make them a bookmaker.
    This business and all of us companys should work together at all times , but we cant lose sight of what is really going on. We are in competition. Like restaurant owners, shoe companys, car dealers, clothing stores, and on and on. Competition. The good survive the bad dont. Some make money and some dont.
    I have spoken with several of my friends who own other books. They all had very successful football seasons. Skybook didnt. Ours sucked. Why? who knows. Maybe the others were better bookmakers then us. I think this is the case to tell you the truth. I dont think we knew what the hell we were doing. I know this though we kept booking and kept paying.
    I never thought to myself that I wish I
    could make everyone else change to benefit me. How about a 3 point line in football. You can lay 8 but only take 5. Boy that would have helped me save a lot of money. That is ridiculous though. How could I tell someone else how to run there company.
    I spoke at length with Charlie from sport market. He feels as I do. He will use a 10 cent line. He will not change. Why? well isnt it obvious. He like Skybook obviously has no problem in baseball and profits. I also spoke with another Donbest book friend as well. He does not plan to change either. (I forgot to ask him if I could make that public knowledge so I wont say who it is. Nor should I have to.)To those who think eveyone is losing in baseball its not true. To those who think everyone has to do the same thing its not true either. If coke adds more sugar to their soda does pepsi have to as well?
    We all keep taking about this just being a business decision, and it is. That is why Skybook will never switch. Why change a successful business around. Like I have said in the past the public is not stupid and will not bet a 20 cent line in baseball. They
    will play with the books with the 10 cent line and that means even more business for Skybook and the others that deal the 10 cent line.
    To those that ask me am I sure over and over. Yes I am sure. Just like my other 2 friends and the other books that I dont know about but you readers do.

    I cant wait for baseball season to start.
    Thanks Lance

  • #2
    lance i am a bit confused, is skybook going to stick with the 10 cent line?

    enough already.

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    • #3
      If major books like Skybook, Sports Market, and Casablance are keeping with the 10 cent line then the other major books can either go along or simply lose their customers - no real player is going to bet into a 20 cent baseball line.

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      • #4
        PHAEDRUS
        Are you still sleeping with Jon Kyle?
        Who asked some little kid who is the self proclaimed totals king but never bets big anything. Not me. You dont even bet baseball and have no clue anyway. When you grow up and become a man and learn about this business you will (or maybe not) learn how serious this issue is.
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        • #5
          MLS
          My whole point exactly. I hope everyone eventually will see it that simply and stop saying the whole business switching can work.
          Thanks buddy Lance

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          • #6
            Lance,you are pardoned for dropping your sheets last season if you lead the industry by keeping a 10 cent line.Half sheets,quarter sheets etc. must be tough to overcome especially during bases.Stick to your convictions ,buddy.

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            • #7
              AJAX50
              Thanks for that. As you can tell Its not easy work, but if I learned anything from Jay and Boomer its to keep fighting for what you believe in
              Take care Lance

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              • #8
                PHAEDRUS

                Maybe I should have tried a different approach with you and some others. So here it goes. Why are there so many people like yourself in this site that simply post looking for trouble. I never EVER started trouble with anyone. I simply dont back down when its brought to me or I am attacked for no reason. I started a thread. Its real easy to see who started it and what the topic is.
                Why did you read it? Why did you respond? obviously simply looking for trouble.
                If you dont like what i have to say dont read my posts. I couldnt have made it easier for you by starting it and letting you know.
                I thought we all learned at young ages if we dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all. I remember the guy Fred coming in here out of nowhere to attack my partner and then Skybook. I showed everyone how true my posts were. We never heard before or after frm him again. You follow this forum
                last night for example. INTHEKNOW posts a lot. I read his posts. He keeps posting as a bookmaker. I am curious to know what book he works for. I like knowing who is who. I ask an innocent question to a person I dont know.
                Hey what book are you with? As far as I am concerned he had 3 choices for an answer.
                1- None, dont respond to the question..
                2- Tell me he would rather not say.
                3- Simply tell me the answer to my question.
                ( which is the point of these forums anyway. To learn .
                Instead out of nowhere some guy I never met responds with some ridiculos cheap shot obviously looking for trouble. Then back to you tonight. Why did you read my post? Was it not clear enough for you who wrote it?
                Why do people like you fell the need to join this room and post simply looking for trouble. I and i am sure 99% of the people would agree. Think this forum is great. We all learn from it and enjoy it. Think how much better off it would be if people like you didnt clog it up looking for trouble for absolutely no reason.
                If your that bored and need the trouble do us all a favor and go find a chat room. Most of us really want to hear all these questions and answers. Most want to learn from thi site, and we would all be better off without having to waist time responding to people looking for trouble for no reason

                Think about it Lance

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                • #9
                  Lance, I just wanted to express my support for you and your outfit. While others think that it is not the most prudent thing for managers to lash out at forum members, as they feel that it is some kind of reflection of their customer service, NO ONE should ever be reduced to kissing butt when someone treats them rudely and with disrespect. I said the same thing to Spiro of Olympic; I prefer book reps to be nice, but NORMAL, people, not whores for the sake of publicity and a larger customer base. Keep up that attitude, and I'll be sure to take a closer look at your outfit come baseball season.

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                  • #10
                    Lance!

                    In the past couple of days you have made many posts about the dime line. Maybe I missed a few but didn't notice any posts on a few other important topics.
                    1) sportsbooks that cancel bets on off lines.
                    2) when is a bonus the customers.

                    Care to give your opinions on those.

                    I know i'm only a novice bettor and Phaedrus is a trouble maker and everyone that disagrees with you is inept. But maybe before they cannonize you for saving all us novices from throwing away our money on wide lines you can enlighten us with your wisdom.

                    Try not to take this as a personal attack but the way I see it you haven't said anything nice about anyone that disagrees with your opinion.

                    THE DEVIL

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                    • #11
                      GOODEN
                      I really , really appreciate that my friend. It does mean a lot to me. Its so frustrating to me. Why do these people post only looking for trouble? I am in a no win situation .I can not respond and give them the satisfaction or let them know I am not here for some bored person looking for trouble to start with me.
                      It is really surprising to me and more upsetting to tell you the truth why these few people feel the need to clog these forums with insults for no reason. Why cant they go in a chat room and cyber sex or something but leave us people alone who use this forum to learn and enjoy.
                      I know I handle myself well and always come out on top. Why? simple. Because i am always right. I never start the trouble ever.
                      Good always prevails over evil.

                      If you ever need me...................No i was just kidding .

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                      • #12
                        Devil
                        You seem to be sincere this time so I will try to help with an answer if i can. First you are totally wrong. I have said many times that the beauty of this forum is our rights to agree and disagree,I have no problem with people not agreeing with me or my opinions. I dont like the ones looking for trouble for no reason.
                        Seriously now I will ask you. Why was Phaedrus even in my thread reading my post if I bother him? Why did he feel the need to respond with his post . To me for no other reason but to look for trouble.
                        Now last night I asked a harmless question to the guy INTHEKNOW I even said thanks. What was so wrong with my question? why did he feel the need to respond with that cheap shot ? Why did you feel the need to jump in with him?
                        I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SO WRONG WITH MY QUESTION THAT YOU TWO CHOOSE TO ATTACK ME IN YOUR POSTS.
                        Anyway like i said I am like you seem to be in your last post. I am here trying to learn`and help others learn.I enjoy the site.
                        Trust me if you can find a thread with me starting trouble with someone out of nowhere I will put 5 grand in an account for you my shop. More. You wont be able to . I dont do it. I just respond when its done to me for no reason.
                        Believe me if you think i enjoy havving to respond to those people you are wrong.

                        Anyway i hope that helps you understand a little better where I am coming from.
                        As far as your questions. I will give you my opinions to them. I dont thin k bets should be cancelled. Why would they be? I do think their should be some ethics though. I dont think The clients should sit around waiting to feast on the books for human error. If someone bets nebraska plus 47 points in football when we all know they should have been minus 47 points I have no problem with the book cancelling it. I guess it is really a case by case situation. I think I would be better able to answer for you if you gave me an example.
                        As far as the bonus goes. I dont know why people give out bonuses. Why should they? I guess its to attract more clients. I think the more solid books dont need to do this. I tried to play the bonus game. Its not worth it. We recently decided our max bonus will be $500. We used to give a guy 3k for sending 30k . Thats crazy. I cant make that kind interest with a bank. Each book deals with bonuses differently. Ask BOOMER this. He called me a while ago. He asked me for the 1/2 point deal. I told him I dont need the business that bad. I also told him to be on the look out for all these books that offer all these gimmicks. I dont think all the bonuses and gimmicks he ever got with all the books that give them to him will make his 10k back.
                        I hope you were being sincere like I think and I hope my response shows you I am not here looking for trouble.
                        BUT IF YOU WANT IT- BRING IT ON
                        No seriously I am kidding. I am here for the exchange I think we just had . Not for trouble
                        I really hope I helped answer you and helped you understand me better
                        Take care Lance

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                        • #13
                          Lance!

                          I never said you were a bad guy. Just didn't like to see what I perceived as advertising on your behalf.

                          Ps. we do know each other fairly well. Next time I see you will buy you dinner at meditteraneo. Trying to stay incognito.

                          THAT's why I'm THE DEVIL for now.

                          pps. maybe next time well work out together

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                          • #14
                            DEVIL
                            What is cannonize? is that when we as kids jumped into the pool , grabbed our bent legs up into our chests and yelled cannonball?. If so how is it related to the thread?
                            Now you see there I was simply trying to be funny and I am very funny as you will learn if you get to know me. I could make you laugh a lot more if I didnt have to respond to the trouble makers
                            Take care Lance
                            P.S Look what took place. Yesterday you choose to insult me for no reason. I never did anything to you. Then a day later you would like me to answer questions about the business you find important. Wouldnt it have been better not to insult me yesterday when you might want to hear form me today.
                            PLEASE TRUST ME ON THIS
                            Many book sread this everyday. They simply dont post because of what happens when you do. the trouble makers come out of the woodwork. I ahve spoken many and this is definitly the case. Thank god I recieved much more positive support then the few people looking for trouble or maybe I would be like them and choose not to post
                            Thanks Lance

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                            • #15
                              Devil
                              This is a shock to me and you must not know me well at all. If you did you never would have choose to start any ****, and you would never to be dumb enough to tell me who you are after you did. If you think you know me you dont. Ask others form our very little , tiny , island about me and they will give you the same advice. DONT EVER TELL ME WHO YOU ARE

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