BEWARE ACTION SPORTS...All sportsbooks and gamblers read this!!!

[Jeff]

I don't think it's a matter of jumping the gun, or whether or not he eventually gets paid.

The main point here is that it's his money, and he's entitled to it whenever he wants it.

Really no sense in doing business with a book that doesn't pay you when you request the funds.

[brett]

Boomer,
I do not envy your situation. I have been in your shoes before where I was not comfortable with my balance at a certain book and tryed to middle my way out of there. It always seems like you just keep winning at the place you don't want to win.
I have played at Action Sports for about a year and a half and to be honest with you have always gotten paid promptly. Generally when I would call Monday morning for a payout it would be at my door Wednesday morning. But I also always deep down worried a little about these guys because of the -105 juice. But I would keep 20 to 30 dimes there during football because they were my main out. I am not wagering really heavy at this point of the year and I currently have about 13 there.
After reading your post I called them and requested a payout for 9800. I talked to Dave Moore. He told me that Ray was not on the Island and that he could send me 5000 and the rest next week. He also said that the General Manager Jason Johnson was away until the weekend because of a death in the family. But Dave was very apologetic about it and said he might be able to have the whole amount by Friday. He said that since Ray was not there that 5000 was the most that could be approved for a payout at this time. I didn't really care for his answer but I didn't press on because I have always gotten paid from these guys. Jason and I have a very good repore with each other and I do trust them. I requested the payout because I don't need that kind of money down there at this time of the year.
Boomer, I would be willing to bet that you will get your money. Obviously, not when you should get it. I would ask to talk to Jason when he gets back this weekend. Even tell him that Brett told you to ask for him. I think that he will take care of you.

[T0WM0NSTER]

I agree with Jeff its places like this that give this industry a badname.If ya lose they get their money.Then if they take the bets they should pay no ands ifs or buts about it.After all it is Boomers money.Good luck Boomer on getting your funds.Keep us posted on what happens with ACTION SPORTS . I for one will stay away from this book.

[Don Best]

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[Boomer]

I appreciate the support from everyone. It's important we stick together on this issue. Brett, I appreciate you drawing down and encourage others to do the same.

Why I am so infuriated with this Ray Meyers is the arrogance with with he conducts himself. He feels he can operate the same as an extortionist because he holds my money. I threatened him with going public on this and he laughed at me.

The reason I want to cause a run on his book is not because I want to lose my money, believe me. This Ray Meyers needs to know that I will not be subject to blackmail, and that there is a price to pay and the best place to hit a charletan like this is in his wallet.

I want to let him know his actions have repercussions. This is not a case of "Sorry, we had a problem."

This is a case of "Screw You, I have your money and there's nothing you can do about it." That is why I'm so furious.

[Cons]

Jeff said it first, the money is Boomer's. They should send it to him whenever he requests it.

IMO, a bettor should NEVER, EVER have to even call a book twice to ask for a refund. And if he does, there better be a damn good reason why he should have to.

[cashusking]

Thanks for the warnings, and special thanks to Don Best.

I am looking to expand my offshore operations and comments such as these are invaluable. So far I have stayed with the places on the Don Best feed for obvious reasons and with the exception of some questionable "bad line" excuses the service has been good at all of them.

[tim]

Well, here's my two cents. Boomer, I understand why your pissed--it's YOUR money and you want it..NOW. I can tell you this much; I know several people that have played with Action for the last three years or so and the consensus is that Ray is a New Yorker with an ego the size of Ohio that likes to be in control. The fact that he laughed at you when you threatened to go public, confirms his arrogant side. However, these players have always gotten paid, although sometimes there were delays of up to a week. Your comments have no doubt come to the attention of Mr. Meyers and it will be interesting to see how this progresses. Keep us posted.

[Don Best]

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[Boomer]

I really appreciate everyone's support on this. Tim, DeacDoug, your information is invaluable to me. Thank you.

So, the general consensus is that Action Sports will pay out, it may just take some time.

Although I despise the way they do business, a slow pay is a whole 'nuther thing than a no-pay. Armed with that knowledge, I called back and spoke with Dave, who was very nice and sympathetic to my plight, but unable to do anything as he is just an employee.

So really there is nothing to do except sit and wait until Ray gets back on February 21st. I will advise everyone if anything changes between now and then.

It is sad that this whole unfortunate episode had to occur, but I did warn them about the power of this site and the snowball effect it would create. I know for sure this has cost them lots of money and lost opportunity for new clients who will never go in there now.

It would have been so much easier if they just said, "where would you like the check sent?"

[ghostly]

Boomer,

I don't understand what needs to be reviewed. It's not like they gave you a bonus and you had to meet certain criteria to get your money back. I'm wondering what criteria they have to look at to see if they're going to pay you, or to see how much they're going to pay you. Did you ask or did they tell you?

[Boomer]

I didn't ask because it is not important. Real books don't make you wait two weeks to "review" your account and there was nothing unusual about my plays. Real books have someone writing checks while they are gone.

It's all window dressing anyway, I suspected what he was all about after the first payout request was not honored, but I always give someone the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise.

[krackman]

For this guy to "laugh in your face" when you said you were going to trash/expose his book over the net.He deserves the worst kind of publicity out there I for one will make sure all gambling buddies of mine will know about this idiot.

I have had the same thing happen "laugh in my face"from grandprix these places should be exposed for they put a blemish on the offshore industry.

My own opinion is one of two things will happen 1.) They will go under or 2.) You will be paid. If I had to bet it would be number 2.

[intheknow]

After the Super Bowl books are usually processing a lot of pay-outs, and this past week was one of the worse in the young basket season for the books. I think you will see a lot of books slow-paying for the next couple of weeks. Be prepared for a lot of different excuses for this. The rock solid books always keep plenty of cash in their pay-out accounts to make sure that doesn't happen to them. Take it as a sign of strength from your book if you get paid quickly at this time and a question mark for those who don't.

[Jason Johnson]

Well after sitting back and letting everyone get their 2 cents in I think it is time for me to respond. First off, granted boomer sent in 10 dimes and played for a week. Then request a payout of 10 dimes, what Mr. Boomer fails to mention is that he only had 11.9 dimes in his account being the type of player he is who plays a decent amount of games daily. An eye brow was raised as to why he would pull the 10 dimes out. So hence the payout was questioned. What boomer also neglects to mention is that he was given 5 free ½ points. Now after careful review of the situation, my conclusions are as follows:

a) After using the 5 free ½ points, we the sports book who are looking to build a long term relationship obviously would want some more action before the account is practically closed.

b) We did pay boomer below his initial deposit but not to the tune he would have liked. Being the type of player that he is, who plays 2 dimes a game, leaving less that the amount he usually bets on one game is a little weird.

c) Boomer got paid to the tune of 50% of his account balance. So as to show that we do pay.

d) Boomer then proceeds to run the account up to 26 dimes and requests a payout the following week, of 10 Dimes. HE GOT PAID. Which by the way he forgot to mention. Funny thing for some one that starts off by saying "Everyone who reads my posts here knows I speak the truth and rarely say a bad word about anyone unless it warranted"

e)He played a little more the next week and and requested a payout of $13919, because he was uncomfortable. Well up to this point we had already paid him 16.2 dimes. ACTION SPORTS PAID HIM AGAIN.

f) Now Boomer plays a total of 6 games over the course of the next 12 days. He then wants to cash out the rest of his account after being paid a total $30119. Speaking for my self as a book maker and a business man I always speak to any client before an account is closed and paid out.


All of the above are facts with little or no personal opinions so far. Now here comes my personal opinion of the situation.


First off to call MR. Meyers a cancer of the industry after being paid 30 dimes on a 10 dime deposit is being bit of an ingrate. Now for the past 5 days my staff has had to put up with all the question and insecurities because of the posts here on bettors world. So far I think that we have been more that fair and I really do not understand what has caused you Boomer to make such a derogatory post when we treated you like gold. The reason behind our change in the amount of the first payout I think should be obvious but just in case I will spell it out. After taking 5 half points, a free parlay, 5 % juice and other sign up perks we wanted more action from you boomer before you closed your account. Which despite what you might say with drawing 10 dimes out of 11 when you play 2 dimes a game to me, is closing your account. We are looking to build long term clients not for some one to come in and take all our perks and then close out.

I spoke to you boomer on the phone yesterday and I said I do not understand the reasoning behind why Mr. Meyers did what he did. I now not only agree with him but after looking in to the entire situation I am very upset with how we have been treated by the post you made.

To want to hurt a business that paid you 30 dimes, I really just don't understand. But what I will say that after REVIEWING your account. It is you sir that is a cancer of the industry, my reason for saying that is that you take the same bookmakers that you spoke about and turn them in to *****s when they have to deal with the likes of you.

As for some of the other posts on this topic by other people, they just make me think of the bible, where is written " Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone".

And just for the record, someone asked why would an account need to reviewed, I will just give you one reason, the rest are real easy to come up with when you think about it.

One of the reasons for reviewing an account is just in case an employee could be working with a friend and trying to screw the office.

For all the Action Sports clients that come to this forum.

1) I am sorry for not Posting a reply sooner.

2) Your money is safe here at Action sports and we are not going any where.

3) To any of my clients, if for any reason you are feeling insecure I would like a call to at least let me know the way you feel.


Jason Johnson
General Manager
Action Sports