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Old 08-16-2001, 03:21 PM
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Old 08-16-2001, 07:52 PM
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Is there a limit on bonus amounts?
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Old 08-16-2001, 09:33 PM
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Hi Sportingbet,

how long is this promo going for?
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Old 08-17-2001, 10:57 AM
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Old 08-17-2001, 12:39 PM
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Enjoy the bonus, because as soon as you start beating them regularly, they will kick you out. SPORTINGBET USA welcomes LOSERS AND SQUARES, only!!!
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Old 08-17-2001, 01:34 PM
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Enjoy the bonus, because as soon as you start beating them regularly, they will kick you out. SPORTINGBET USA welcomes LOSERS AND SQUARES, only!!!




Quote:
Originally posted by REALITY:

THIS IS ********* PROBLEM WITH BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA.

AND I QUOTE:

BOOKMAKERS WHO CHASE WINNERS OR CANCEL BETS OR FREEZE ACCOUNTS OR GENERALLY MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR ANYONE WITH A DON BEST FEED.

********* PROBLEM?

HE IS UNDER THE DILLUSION THAT BECAUSE HE SUBSCRIBES TO THE DON BEST PREMIUM FEED AT A COST OF $500/MONTH HE IS A WISEGUY AND HE IS GOING TO BEAT A PROFESSIONAL B.M.IN WITH THE MOVE.

LET US DEFINE TWO TYPES OF PLAYERS.

WISEGUY AND SHARP.

A WISEGUY PLAYER IS EITHER THE ORIGINATOR OR A MOVER FOR THE ORIGINATOR WHO HAS THE CAPACITY TO WIPE OUT THE MARKET ON A PARTICULAR GAME WITHIN 60 SECONDS.

EXAMPLE:GAME#125 PURDUE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

LAST NIGHT AN OPEN ORDER WENT OUT FOR PURDUE-3,60 SECONDS LATER PURDUE WAS -3.5.

THERE ARE ONLY A HALF DOZEN ORIGINATORS WHO HAVE THIS CAPACITY.

********* IS DEFINITELY NOT THE ORIGINATOR AND THERE IS AN OUTSIDE SHOT HE MIGHT BE A SECONDARY MOVER.

THIS IS THE KIND OF PLAYER CERTAIN COMPANIES HAVE A WISEGUY DISCLAIMER ABOUT.

BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA HAS NO SUCH DISCLAIMER.

THEY ARE A PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED COMPANY WHO WOULD NEVER INSULT THE BETTING PUBLIC OR THE INTEGRITY OF THE OFF-SHORE BUSINESS WITH SUCH A PROVISO.

THEN THERE IS THE SHARP PLAYER.

A SHARP PLAYER EITHER DOES HIS OWN HANDICAPPING OR HAS ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO DO.

GENERALLY SPEAKING A SHARP PLAYER GETS THE BEST OF IT ON LEADS AND NEVER PLAYS A GAME AT A BAD NUMBER.

FROM READING MANY OF ********* CONDESCENDING POSTS I DOUBT HE IS A SHARP PLAYER ACCORDING TO THIS DEFINITION.

I THINK ********* IS UNDER THE DILLUSION THAT BECAUSE HE IS SPENDING $500 A MONTH ON A DON BEST FEED HE IS A WISEGUY.

HE IS NOT.

HE IS AT BEST A SHARP PLAYER WHO FEELS THAT ANY COMPANY WHO IS NOT CATERING TO HIM IS NOT WORTHY OF HIS OR ANYONE ELSES ACTION.

HE THINKS BY POSTURING AGAINST THE COMPANIES HE CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND BY BLOWING SMOKE UP THE ASS OF COMPANIES WHO MAY BE CUTTING HIM SOME SLACK WHEN HE PLAYS HE IS GOING TO GET THE BEST OF IT MORE TIMES THAN NOT.

IN ESSENCE HE IS THE INDIVIDUAL DOING THE SCHILLING HERE.

********* CLAIMS THAT HE AND HIS FRIEND BOTH GOT BOOTED FOR PLAYING SHARP PLAYS.

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS AND CHALLENGE.

A. ARE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA OR SPORTINGBET.UK?

I AM TALKING ABOUT SPORTINGBETUSA THE FORMER BETMAKER.COM.

B.WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

C.WERE THE PLAYS YOU MAKING BEING MOVED FOR THE ORIGINATOR AND THE SCREEN TURNED BLACK 30-60 SECONDS LATER?

IF YOUR ANSWER TO THE ABOVE QUESTION IS NO I CHALLENGE YOU TO REPOST AT SPORTINGBETUSA AND COME BACK INTO THIS FORUM AND SAY YOU WERE BOOTED.

YOU COULD PLAY THE BOARD DURING THE WEEK AND COME GAME DAY EVERY GAME YOU PLAYED THE LINE COULD MOVE TWO POINTS IN YOUR DIRECTION AND YOU COULD WIN EVERY GAME AND YOU WILL NEVER GET BOOTED FOR WINNING.

THIS HAS BEEN A HORRIBLE FOOTBALL SEASON FOR B.M.'S THIS YEAR.

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN HIT HARD LIKE A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES HAVE YOU SEEN ANYBODY COME IN HERE AND SAY THEY WERE BOOTED?

ANY PLAYER WHO COMES IN HERE AND SAYS HE WAS BOOTED THIS FOOTBALL SEASON FOR WINNING IS AN OUT AND OUT LIAR.

I HAVE DISCLOSED THE FACT THAT I HAVE BEEN IN THE EMPLOY OF SEVERAL OF THE COMPANIES WHICH I HAVE ENDORSED.

IT IS THAT TERM OF EMPLOYMENT WHICH ALLOWED ME ACCESS TO THEIR INNER MOST DEALINGS THAT ALLOWS ME TO STATE WITHOUT RESERVATION THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR SLOW PAY,NO PAY IN THESE COMPANIES.

MY WORD IS EVERYTHING TO ME, EVEN TO STRANGERS SO I AM NOT ABOUT TO COME IN HERE AND RECOMMEND EVERY BOOK I KNOW.

THERE ARE AT LEAST 2O OTHER BOOKS WHO I AM FRIENDLY WITH WHO PRIVATELY ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHY I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THEM.

THE ANSWER IS WHILE THEY MAY BE MY FRIENDS AND MAY BE AS STRONG AS EVERY BOOK I ENDORSE ,I HAVEN'T WORKED THERE AND I HAVE NO INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO MAKE SUCH AN ENDORSEMENT.

I HAVE 20 YEARS IN THIS BUSINESS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE COUNTER.

I HAVE MOVED FOR EVERY ORIGINATOR.

JEFF KNOWS ME PERSONALLY AND HAS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION POSTED ABOUT MY PROFICIENCY AND INTEGRITY IN THIS BUSINESS.

BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA HAS 24 SITTING CUSTOMER SERVICE CLERKS FOR SIGN-UPS AND ASSISTING CURRENT OR PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS.

THEY HAVE 18 PEOPLE IN ACCOUNTING TO JUST PROCESS PAYOUTS.

THEY HAVE 60 PHONE OPERATORS TO TAKE YOUR WAGER.

THEY HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF BETTING OPTIONS AND PROPS AND THEY TAKE A GOOD BET.

THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS IN THE DATABASE WHO HAVE PLAYED AND ARE CURRENTLY PLAYING AT BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA.

TAKE THAT NUMBER VERSUS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS REGISTERED HERE AND IN OTHER FORUMS AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF BEFORE YOU ARBITRARILY PASS ON BETMAKER/SPORTINGBETUSA.

GO INTO THE BIOS AND REVIEW THE PREVIOUS POSTS OF THE POSTER WHO IS EITHER PRAISING OR BAD MOUTHING A PARTICULAR BOOK.

GET A SENSE OF THE POSTERS CREDIBILITY AND MATCH IT UP WITH OTHER POSTERS YOU HAVE COME TO RESPECT.

AS A PLAYER THESE ARE THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME:

A.HONOR THE LINE YOU POST

B.HONOR THE WAGER YOU ACCEPT

C.PAYMENT ON DEMAND

AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED THE 8 BOOKS I ENDORSE WILL DEFINITELY GIVE YOU ALL OF THE ABOVE.

IN ADDITION THEY GIVE YOU THE GREATEST BONUS
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PEACE OF MIND.

REALITY

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Old 08-17-2001, 01:50 PM
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Sportshobby and peter punter,
Thanks for your questions.

We have a re-load cap of $250 and a cap for new sign-ups of $375, which comes with a $50 parlay.

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Old 08-17-2001, 02:32 PM
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Sportingbet, you forgot to mention the
"Don't pick winners or we'll throw your ass out program". That, is apparently the one I unknowingly signed up for :D
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Old 08-17-2001, 02:35 PM
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Sportingbet, you forgot to mention the
"Don't pick winners or we'll throw your ass out program". That, is apparently the one I unknowingly signed up for.



"C.WERE THE PLAYS YOU MAKING BEING MOVED FOR THE ORIGINATOR AND THE SCREEN TURNED BLACK 30-60 SECONDS LATER?

IF YOUR ANSWER TO THE ABOVE QUESTION IS NO I CHALLENGE YOU TO REPOST AT SPORTINGBETUSA AND COME BACK INTO THIS FORUM AND SAY YOU WERE BOOTED.

YOU COULD PLAY THE BOARD DURING THE WEEK AND COME GAME DAY EVERY GAME YOU PLAYED THE LINE COULD MOVE TWO POINTS IN YOUR DIRECTION AND YOU COULD WIN EVERY GAME AND YOU WILL NEVER GET BOOTED FOR WINNING."

REALITY
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Old 08-17-2001, 02:52 PM
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NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! I don't work for anybody except myself. Sportingbet received a variety of action from me, including boxing, hockey, football props,etc. They canned me during the NFL season. I actually enjoyed playing there but THEY booted me..why would they welcome my return? They made it very clear that they didn't want my business. I never said that they weren't financially stable. I'm sure they have the number of employees and customers that you state. They DON'T want winners and I resent books that come on these forums inviting the public to play WITHOUT informing them that they will be severing the accounts of sharp players.
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Old 08-17-2001, 03:32 PM
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KK,

SBUSA DOES NOT BOOT PLAYERS FOR WINNING.

PERIOD.

WAS YOUR ACCOUNT CLOSED AT SPORTINGBET.UK OR SPORTINGBETUSA.COM?

THESE ARE TWO DISTINCT OPERATIONS.

ONE IN ENGLAND AND ONE IN COSTA RICA.

A PLAYER WHO I KNOW THAT WAS BEATING SPIRO FROM OLYMPIC FOR OVER 7 FIGURES,THAT'S RIGHT SEVEN FIGURES ASKED ME WHERE HE COULD PLAY AND GET PAID THAT KIND OF MONEY.

I TOLD HIM SBUSA.

HE HAS BEATEN THEM FOR A TON.

HE IS THE TOP WINNER IN THE HISTORY OF THE COMPANY BACK TO IT'S BETMAKER DAYS.

THEY HAVEN'T CHASED HIM AND I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T WIN WHAT HE DID.

PUBLICLY TRADED ON THE AIM EXCHANGE IN LONDON.

CAPITALIZED AT OVER A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS.

ACQUIRED ONE OF AUSTRALIA'S LARGEST BOOKMAKERS, NUMBER ONE.

RECENTLY ACQUIRED SPORTSBOOK.COM A COMPANY WITH ALMOST AN 500 MILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL HANDLE.

DID YOU HAVE SOME OTHER PROBLEM THERE?

SOMEONE ELSE USING YOUR ACCOUNT?

WERE YOU OVER RIDING THE LIMITS BETWEEN THE PHONE AND INTERNET?

TWO PEOPLE CALLING AT ONCE USING YOUR ACCOUNT TRYING TO OVER RIDE THE LIMIT AT A CERTAIN NUMBER?

IF YOU ARE NOT A MOVER OR AN ORIGINATOR AND SBUSA CLOSED YOUR ACCOUNT OR WOULDN'T LET YOU REPOST I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAD A PROBLEM THERE.

I SEEM TO RECALL YOU CRITICIZING 7 PALMS IN A SIMILAR TYPE POST IN THE RX.

REALITY
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Old 08-17-2001, 05:28 PM
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The place that booted me was in the British Channel Islands. If you go to sportingbetusa.com and click on "about us", they state that "sportingbet.com(UK) is a "UK public company...and we have offices in London, Australia,and now Costa Rica." None of the scenarios that you have created are true. The booting surprised me as things were always handled by Sportingbet in a professional manner. Most of my wagering was done over the internet because it would take a while to get through on the phone during busy periods. If you work for or know these people, and they pledge not to pull this again, I'll post-up tomorrow.
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Old 08-17-2001, 07:30 PM
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KK,

YOUR POST WAS IN ERROR THEN.

Quote:
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Enjoy the bonus, because as soon as you start beating them regularly, they will kick you out. SPORTINGBET USA welcomes LOSERS AND SQUARES, only!!!



YOU NEVER HAD AN ACCOUNT CLOSED IN SPORTINGBETUSA WHICH IS LOCATED IN COSTA RICA BECAUSE YOU NEVER HAD AN ACCOUNT THERE.

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Old 08-17-2001, 07:44 PM
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Right. You go to the SportingbetUSA website, they have the same logo of the book that I used to play at, they say their home office is in the British Channel Islands and you're saying that the company isn't one in the same?? PLEASE send me some of the stuff that you're smoking because it must be some powerful sh*t!! :D
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Old 08-17-2001, 07:58 PM
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KK,

TWO DISTINCT OPERATIONS, IN TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES NO LESS, RUN BY TWO DIFFERENT MANGEMENT TEAMS.

SIMILAR TO POST TIME/WWTS AND LAS PALMAS/W.I.T.,EXCEPT THESE BROTHER/SISTER OPERATIONS ARE RUN IN THE SAME COUNTRY.

YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE IN YOUR UNCALLED FOR COMMENTS AND RANTS AGAINST SPORTINGBETUSA...

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Old 08-17-2001, 08:15 PM
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REALITY: funny you call yourself that because you live in a fantasy world. You admitted that it IS in fact, the same company. SO WHAT if they have different management teams? I HAD accounts at WIT and L.P..they decided to cater to smaller bettors and closed the larger guys' accounts at Palmas. Do you actually believe that the ownership doesn't know what's going on? YOU, sir, are the one who is off base in YOUR comments. SPORTINGBET.UK/USA/WHATEVER closed my account because I was beating them..PERIOD. I challenge YOU, to have your buddies or coworkers at SPORTINGBET contact me and see if they wish to reopen the account. If what you say is true, that won't be a problem.
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Old 08-17-2001, 08:26 PM
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KK,

YOU ARE A JOKE.

WE BOTH KNOW THE REAL DEAL HERE SO SPARE ME THE BULLSHIT.

THINK OF SPORTINGBET.U.K.AS GENERAL MOTORS AND THINK OF SPORTINGBETUSA AS THE CADILLAC DIVISION.

SAME OWNERSHIP,DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT.

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE BETTING OPERATION IN THE U.K. AND THE BETTING OPERATION IN COSTA RICA ARE ONE AND THE SAME?

DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME B.M.?

DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME LINES?

DO YOU THINK THE WAGERS IN BOTH OPERATIONS ARE POOLED INTO ONE AND THE LINE IS MOVED ACCORDINGLY?

IF YOU DO YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE ABOUT THE OFF-SHORE INDUSTRY.

YOU MAY HAVE DRIVEN A G.M.CAR,YOU JUST DIDN'T DRIVE THE CAR FROM THE CADILLAC DIVISION...

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Old 08-17-2001, 09:24 PM
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is an originator the same as the boogieman?
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Old 08-17-2001, 09:41 PM
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Good one, eggnog!! FYI, FANTASY, uh, REALITY, Wit and Las Palmas have different lines, different BM's but if you think that the owners don't know who's betting what at each book,then you're a misguided idiot. I NEVER said that the wagers were pooled into one and the lines were moved accordingly.You are obviously a shill or some self-appointed apologist for this company. I could give a rat's ass what YOU think I know about the offshore industry. Betting sports is the only job that I've had for the past five years and it's been a damned good living. BTW, I drive a Benz, NOT a Cadillac. Next time you're in the neighborhood, I'll give you a lift. :D
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AND YOU MY FRIEND ARE SOME DISGRUNTLED WANNABE WISEGUY WHO CAME IN THIS THREAD MALIGNING A BOOK WHO YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A BEEF WITH.

YOU CLAIM YOU PLAY YOUR OWN GAMES,SO THE SCREEN WONT BE MOVING 30 TO 60 SECONDS LATER.

WHY DONT YOU POST UP WITH SBUSA AND SEE IF YOU CAN BEAT THEM.

THEN IF THEY CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU CAN COME BACK HERE WITH A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT.

AT LEAST IT WILL BE THE CORRECT BOOK THAT YOUR GRINDING AN AXE AGAINST.

REALITY
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Old 08-17-2001, 10:30 PM
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LOL!! Are you for REAL??? Disgruntled?? Maybe. Wannabe WISEGUY? Absolutely NOT! If they didn't keep slapping that f*cking label on me, shithouses like SPORTINGBET wouldn't close my accounts. Once again, you twist my words. I said that I don't work for anyone. I DO handicap certain sports. If I see a game starting to move against me, I grab the number. I also play value. If a book has a number that I can make money on, I'll hit it. It would be wonderful to KNOW what these syndicates are going to play beforehand, but all I can do is try to anticipate where the numbers are going.
Again, SPORTINGBET closed my account, and made it crystal clear that they didn't want my action and that is their choice. I'm not going to waste my time sending them a check that they will promptly return. You and I sir, will NEVER be on the same page. BTW, there's a button called "Caps Lock" on your computer keyboard...I think yours is jammed :D
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Old 08-17-2001, 10:50 PM
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KK,

YOUR A BIG TIME GUY WHO DRIVES A MERCEDES.

SEND 10 OR 20 DIMES DOWN TO SBUSA AND BEAT THEM AND THEN COME BACK HERE AND SAY YOUR ACCOUNT WAS CLOSED.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

I'M BETTING YOU WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT THERE BECAUSE OF ONE OF THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

DID YOU HAVE SOME OTHER PROBLEM THERE?

SOMEONE ELSE USING YOUR ACCOUNT?

WERE YOU OVER RIDING THE LIMITS BETWEEN THE PHONE AND INTERNET?

TWO PEOPLE CALLING AT ONCE USING YOUR ACCOUNT TRYING TO OVER RIDE THE LIMIT AT A CERTAIN NUMBER?

IF NOT POST 'EM AND COME BACK AND TOAST 'EM IF THEY CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT...

REALITY
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Old 08-17-2001, 11:00 PM
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Whatever you say, Reality. A wise man once told me "Never argue with a moron because there is no way that you can win that argument". You have proved this theory. Get a life, my friend. I'm OUT....
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Old 08-21-2001, 07:18 AM
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