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Old 11-12-1998, 01:59 AM
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Intertops, Sportfanatik or sportsinteraction?

I am a small better and usually bet only on soocer and american football. I have narrowed my findings to 3 sportsbook.

1.Intertops (minimum bet $6)
2.Sportfanatik (minimum bet $10)
3.Sports interAction (minimum bet $5)

Which one offers the best soccer lines and would pay me my money fast and free?
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Old 11-12-1998, 02:46 AM
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Your most important concern should be whether you will get paid. Of the three books you mentioned, I would choose INTERTOPS first. They have been around a long time and have an excellent reputation for payment. They arent going to disappear.


If your open to other suggestions, you might also check out centrebet. They are located in Australia. They offer good lines for soccer and American football. Since your located in Singapore it is also nearer to your side of the world. Good luck.

http://www.centrebet.com.au

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Old 11-12-1998, 05:08 AM
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Thanks Paul. I was thinking of sending them a bank draft, since by credit card will have to pay some fees. Can you tell me how to send a bank draft?
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Old 11-12-1998, 10:01 AM
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Centrebet I believe is no longer going to be accepting bets from the U.S.. If I am wrong about this, please clarify.
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Old 11-12-1998, 01:28 PM
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Despite the small fees involved, using a credit card is a good way to send money. This is more true for smaller amounts of money.

If you dont want to do this, check with your local bank and tell them you want to send money by the cheapest means available to Australia. In the U.S., a "certified check"
or international money order is common. I'm not sure what is available in Singapore.
You should also email Centrebet and ask for instructions about sending money to them from Singapore.

It appears to me that Centrebet has better lines for soccer than Intertops.
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Old 11-13-1998, 01:30 PM
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I played all 3 casinos, I am also soccer fan and I have to tell you Sportfanatik has the largest soccer selection in the Internet and they pay me ontime (I live in Europe)
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Old 11-13-1998, 06:57 PM
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I'm a rather small soccer bettor ($ 50-100 per play) and I only use Intertops and Interwetten. They both offer tons of soccer bets and they have been around for a while so you need not worry that they do not pay or disappear some time. Interwetten also offers handicap bets on soccer, which means that you can bet on a team with +1 or -1 goal - very interesting option!
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Old 11-13-1998, 09:53 PM
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Is Interwetten the only sportsbook that offer
handicap matches?
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Old 11-14-1998, 02:13 AM
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Best sportsbook for you jinyong15,is darwin allsports.They have soccer and american football,but best of all they have singapore bank account,so you just deposit money at a singapore bank.I don't know which bank in singapore, so you will have to call and find out.

web page: www.betthe.net
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Old 11-20-1998, 08:46 PM
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I have an account with Sportfanatik and Intertops, I always compare the lines between these 2 books and I tell you Sportfanatik soccer lines 20% better than Intertops lines, consequently I always play in Sportfanatik.
I got paid twice and ontime(I live in England)
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Old 11-20-1998, 10:06 PM
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Liverpool, here is yet another book that claims to be INSURED. What info can you provide to this effect? Also, they claim to be licensed in Antigua (in addition to Venezuaela) yet I have never seen them listed on the Antigua Free Trade Zone licensing page, unless they are licensed under a different name.
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Old 11-20-1998, 11:26 PM
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SportsFanatik is one of the sportsbook operated by StarNet Communications International. Starnet operates a wholly owned sportsbook in Antigua, World Gaming.
StarNet's other sportsbooks that I know of are Players Only, Aces, Sportsbook.com and Aztec which are all located in Venezuela. There may be others. These perhaps may not actually be owned by StarNet but they do provide all the support services, software, lines, customer support services, and handle the financial transactions.

Perhaps the claim could be made that StarNet holds a licesne to operate a sportsbook in Antigua and therefore has some connection to the sportsbooks they run in Venezuela. Its all rather murky to say the least!

Perhaps these sportsbook carry business insurance, fire insurance, insurance for employee injury, and the like. But I dont think it would be correct to say that that the customer accounts at any sportsbook is insured against loss or failure of the sportsbook. The sportsbook may carry insurance but it doesnt necesarily apply to wagering accounts.
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Old 11-21-1998, 02:28 AM
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I've accounts in all of the above books and I've like to share with you my experiences,

a. Intertops - my first book to bet soccer. They are solid and good customer service. They paid you and pay you fast. They offer a tons of soccer games every week BUT their lines are not the best in the industry, thats for sure. However, if your are just a small player and playing for fun mainly. This will be the one I recommand you to have an account. Bottom line, how many times have you seen their name being involved in this forum about nopay? Never.

2. Interwetten - I've been joining them about a month. Their service is great and the people there were so nice. But they are still struggling with their odds right now - they used to charge you tax and right its tax free but the odds also dropped down. Well, being a customer with them, I can understand they need some time to grow and I can wait for that. Besides, they are the only one have the +1 goal handicap betting option for soccer in the internet. If you like soccer and looking for some more options, this could be the one. They've also got total goals and some other special options for soccer too. Tons of games of course every week. This is a soccer only book to me right now.

c.Sportsinteraction - This is the new book I've joined lately and one of my favourite. Actually they looks the same as Easybets. Very, very good odds/line most of the time. A lots of sports betting options you can choose from - football, BB, soccer, horse racing, hockey and even cricket. Easybets also have total goals for some selected soccer matches (some of them are just gifts because the default is 2.5 goals). Also got double double, exact score and sometime total corners, etc. As for football, money line and winning margins for every game of NFL, and they allow you to parlay the winning margin - wow, ever think about 5 or 10 bucks can bring you over $100,000? Its another option for fun. The difference - SI has teasar and Easybets don't.

d. Darwin All sports ( Mark Read's betting shop, or www.betthe.net) - A long name. Its an Australia book. I've been using them about several weeks, haven't request payments yet so no info on pay. But the people there are also nice. I did posted a complain here before about their NFL line (I didn't mention their name though), however, I still think they worth to take a look. First, they offer 1.95 line on all NFL actions, sides and total. And they allow you to use these to in parlay too. See my other post of "parlay odds" and you will know how big is the differences. But my advice, place your bet early ortherwise they will drop on both sides later the week. Strange but its true. Their odds on soccer are also very good, especially on favor. e.g. the friendly match on WED, England is a 1.4 to 1.5 favor on most of the books but I've found England is 1.80 on them. Thats a huge gap, my friends. Their standard line for a pick soccer game is 2.50 3.20 2.50 (the same as SI and VC) which is a good line. Mainly soccer actions are Perimer, German, Series A. For the Mon Perimer game, they offer during the game live odds betting - its something new (like Wsex sports market) but I've never tried so nothing can tell. One thing you need to remember - they use AUS$ as betting currency (min AUS$5). Also, credit card is a payment option. However, I won't recommand it to a small bettor especially when you are new to this game.

e. Sportsfanatik - Actually they are just the same as Ace Casino and Sportsbook.com. Maybe Liverpool can explain to us why those three books had the same acc# and names for you to send money to (via bank wire and western union). If they are under the same company, why do they need 3 different names? Anyway, they do have a lots of sports options for you to bet - but its only on their MENU. Nothing inside most of the time. They claim they have most soccer games for you to bet every week, even Isreal soccer. For God sake, how much actions do they have on Isreal soccer every week? Be honest my friend, they will have much more betting actions if they can offer China Series A soccer or J league rather than Isreal soccer. Trust me, their soccer betting sucks. They don't even have Euro 2000 qualifiers and Worthington cup games. As for NFL games, they do have teasar and parlay. Also have a 10 pts 3 teamer (-120) but tie lose. Teasar up to 8 team and parlay up to 10 team. But their odds cannot compared with GSC. In short, unless you are looking for the extra 10%, this is not the place that you will stay long.

Believe or not, if you have follow this forum over 2 months, you should understand I've got nothing to deal with all of the above or the other books.

Just want to give some info for someone maybe intrested.

But as always, its your money my friend. Do yourself a favor, read clearfully they rules and give sometime for observation before you make up your mind. Good luck.

For all of the books above, please send your advertising money to Jeff or Brian for my 30 mins typing.


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Old 11-21-1998, 04:30 AM
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Thanks AYCE. So interwetten is the best for soccer, and darwin is great for NFl (their 1.95 bets).
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Old 11-21-1998, 10:06 AM
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Ayce, Bottom line, how many times have you seen their name being involved in this forum about nopay? Never.

Wrong, Early this year the was a complaint in this forum by some bettors who were stiffed for $60,000 because Intertops said they were a syndicate. Intertops has a rule against syndicate action. Anyone know if they ever settled with those guys?
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Old 11-21-1998, 10:40 AM
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What or who is Syndicate in this industry?
Info please?
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Old 11-21-1998, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys, especially the info Paul provided relating to the licensing situation as it relates to Antigua (MURKY is certainly a good way to describe it). The concern about Sportsfanatik that I have has to do with the fact that they HAVE been around longer than they claim. Trust me they were out there earlier this year. Perhaps their claim to have come about this past summer has to do with being taken over by another company, but this is also a little too murky for me to be doing business with them.

ShiftySheik brings up a good point about the Intertops situation many months ago. There were obviously 2 sides to this story and one of the more interesting things that came out it was when Carib came onto Bettorsworld with what appeared to be a bit of a jab at Intertops (both operate and are licensed in Antigua). I have always been curious about the results of this story as well. I can't recall all the facts, but in a nutshell based on my vague recollection: it was alleged that Intertops would not pay a few players (I believe there may have been 4 involved)) who they felt were part of a syndicate which involved employees of Players Sportsbook. Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. One fact I do know is that this was being decided by the Free Trade Zone of Antigua, who were examining all the relavant facts from both parties. Paul points out that Players is also part of the Starnet family, which if it's true that Sportsfanatik is licensed in Antigua based on this relationship - Players can also make this same claim.
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Old 11-21-1998, 03:16 PM
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toolman, A syndicate in sports betting is a group of bettors that place bets for each other. Usually one higher up member will release a game telling the others who to bet and what line to take.
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Old 11-22-1998, 11:55 PM
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Hey man. I earned piles of money just betting on handicapped matches in interwetten. I just wondered how interwetten earns money in handicapp??????
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